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Sick Days~~

This was an excellent forum held 2/20/97. It is full of ideas about how to handle sick days! There was also a small conversation about the prevention trials. This is a MUST READ forum!!

Links for Forum

Sick Day Rules for Diabetes | Handling Sick Days | Sick Days | Parent's Guide

Judith:
I'm going to try to get to bed early, to make up for last night. Have a great weekend, Melissa! San Antonio's a fun place to visit.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:14:54 (EST) - ppp17.tserv1.otherside.com
Melissa :
Thanks Laura! I'm poofing now! The kids are ready for stories now! Goodnight! have a great weekend!! I certainly will!! hehehehe ***poof***
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:14:36 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
laura from fl:
I'm stalling down here, so I'm going to take a shower and try again in a bit. If you're not here or at C'web Judith, have a good night!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:13:25 (EST) - 162.orlando-005.fl.dial-access.att.net
Melissa :
Yea 4 months old and a tooth already!! Oh too soon!!! I don't want him to get any bigger!!

Hi Judith! At least they know it's RSV for sure now! The doctors wouldn't even tell them till they quizzed them!!! the CRV was the test to diagnose it!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:11:30 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
laura from fl:
If you don't log back on Melissa:
HAVE A GREAT TIME!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:10:12 (EST) - 162.orlando-005.fl.dial-access.att.net
Judith:
Thanks, Laura!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:10:12 (EST) - ppp17.tserv1.otherside.com
Melissa :
I am ALL SET Laura!! We are going to have a great time!! 3 fun filled days and NO responsibilities!!! I'm not going to think about ANYTHING except HIM the entire weekend!! hehehe We leave first thing tomorrow morning!!

Sami, I will certainly call you first thing on Monday!! It sounds like a wonderful plan!! We need things like that on the net!

Goodnight all! It was a great forum and I'm so glad everyone turned up!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:08:16 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
laura from fl:
Judith, this afternoon Melissa told me he's being treated, nothing else.
Sami, Ryan is 4 mo. old.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:07:34 (EST) - 162.orlando-005.fl.dial-access.att.net
Sami:
How olld is Ryan? Melissa!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:05:25 (EST) - 152.163.237.225
Judith:
Any word on Christopher tonight?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:04:51 (EST) - 206.112.27.146
Judith:
Any word on Christopher tonight?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:04:37 (EST) - 206.112.27.146
Melissa :
Hey!!1 I made it back!! I was locked out! Sorry Sami and Abner! Yea you missed it! But the archives will be up soon! I'd sure appreciate it if you could make some comments about some of people's questions and post it on my message board!

Debbie we're going to San Antonio! I just sent you some email cause I had been locked out!

I really need to go and get kids to bed! Thanks everyone for coming tonight!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:04:34 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
laura from fl:
He didn't bite you did he Melissa? So you have EVERYTHING ready for tomorrow?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:02:12 (EST) - 162.orlando-005.fl.dial-access.att.net
Sami:
Melissa, I wanted to let you know that I will be holding alive seminars at HOme Medical Supply where all the local diabetics will be able to come in person and discuss any problems they are facing with with their diabetes. I have also arranged to set up an info. line for all of our diabetic patients. I will love to do that on line too. If you read this message, call me at work at 800- 726-3059, ext. 140, I would like to discuss this with you further. I hope that your forum went OK. Will try to catch you next week. Good night
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:01:17 (EST) - www-az4.proxy.aol.com
Debbie :
good night all!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 23:00:19 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
laura from fl:
Sleep well Debbie!
Beth, I thought you said good night earlier...I must be losing it worse than I thought!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:59:51 (EST) - 162.orlando-005.fl.dial-access.att.net
Debbie :
I need to get to bed soon myself. Although I had this week off, the kids have school, so I have to be up at 6 a.m!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:57:35 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
laura from fl:
Got disconnected.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:55:10 (EST) - 207.146.81.21
Beth :
Think I'll head out. Thanks Melissa.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:55:06 (EST) - 206.253.34.165
Melissa :
Hi Sami!! Sorry about the delay! I had to save what I had! The forum was great! They had alot of questions about prescriptions and medications!

Oh my gosh! I just NOW discovered Ryan has a tooth!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:51:49 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Melissa :
Hi Sami!! Sorry about the delay! I had to save what I had! The forum was great! They had alot of questions about prescriptions and medications!

Oh my gosh! I just NOW discovered Ryan has a tooth!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:50:39 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Timmy :
Did everybody leave?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:50:25 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
sami:
MELISSA!! ARE YOU THERE???
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:47:19 (EST) - www-ae7.proxy.aol.com
sami:
ABNER, I THINK WE MISSED IT THIS TIME, MAY BE NEXT WEEK. DID YOU CATCH THE TOPIC FOR THE NEXT WEEK?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:46:00 (EST) - www-ae7.proxy.aol.com
Debbie :
What fun! Where did you decide to go?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:45:59 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Melissa :
Yea this is IT Debbie!! I'm so excited!!!! We drop the kids off in the morning and we're GONE!!! hehehehe
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:44:47 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
sami:
HI MELISSA, I AM SORRY THAT I'M LATE, MY 8 Y/O SON HAD A BLUE AND GOLD BANQUET FOR HIS CUB SCOUTS AND WE JUST GOT HOME. HOW IS YOUR YOUR FORUM GOING ON PREVENTING AND MANAGING SICK DAYS
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:43:10 (EST) - www-ae7.proxy.aol.com
Melissa :
Good night Nancy! Thanks!! See you AFTER the weekend!! :)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:42:51 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Debbie :
Melissa, is this your weekend away?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:42:38 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Melissa :
Good night Nancy! Thanks!! See you AFTER the weekend!! :)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:41:39 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Debbie :
Good night Nancy, good luck!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:40:23 (EST) - 169.132.97.10
Nancy :
Well, it is time for me to call it a night also!!! Got to get off an tend to my son. Thank so much Melissa - it was great and you are doing a wonderful job!!! Hope you have a wonderful weekend!!!! Goodnight everyone!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:40:04 (EST) - 205.187.209.108
Nancy :
Well, it is time for me to call it a night also!!! Got to get off an tend to my son. Thank so much Melissa - it was great and you are doing a wonderful job!!! Hope you have a wonderful weekend!!!! Goodnight everyone!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:39:55 (EST) - 205.187.209.108
Nancy :
I'm back, I can't remember the last time he was ever this high, but I will check out the link before I give him any insulin. Thanks everyone for your help.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:39:29 (EST) - 205.187.209.108
Dennis Cardone:
Have to give daughter her night time short be back
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:39:03 (EST) - 207.116.102.193
laura from fl:
Good night Nancy. Wish I could have been more help. Say hi to Kevin.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:39:02 (EST) - 207.146.223.76
Melissa :
Yea it came through fine! I always know if it's got your name on it, it'll be entertaining! My favorite was the cookie recipe from Neaman Marcus!! hehehehe
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:38:38 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
Well, it is time for me to call it a night also!!! Got to get off an tend to my son. Thank so much Melissa - it was great and you are doing a wonderful job!!! Hope you have a wonderful weekend!!!! Goodnight everyone!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:36:35 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Dennis Cardone:
Nancy I give about 1/2 unit of H to lower my
daughter 100pts with out food
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:36:01 (EST) - 193.middletown-007.va.dial-access.att.net
laura from fl:
Has he been this high before Nancy? How much did you use then?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:35:36 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Melissa :
Nancy, the link entitled "sick day rules for diabetes" gives percentages! Maybe that will help! It's hard for us to know without knowing what he normally gets!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:35:13 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
Anyone heard of any guidelines of dosage for bs over 500?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:34:14 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Dennis Cardone:
Hello,was all the e-mail readable
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:34:10 (EST) - 193.middletown-007.va.dial-access.att.net
Debbie :
We give TJ three units of R or H to cover a BS over 400... if that helps.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:37 (EST) - 169.132.97.10
Debbie :
We give TJ three units of R or H to cover a BS over 400... if that helps.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:15 (EST) - 169.132.97.10
Nancy :
Beth, Adam takes an a.m. and a p.m. shot. Right about now I am at a loss for the correct dosage to lower his bs.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:07 (EST) - 205.187.209.108
Melissa :
DENNISE!!!! Well it's great to finally see you! It's been a long time! How are you!! Thanks for all those INTERESTING emails you keep sending me!! :)

Good night Beth! See ya MONDAY!!! hehehe

Nancy if Kristina was that high when she was due for her shot of regular, I'd double the amount she normally gets! But that would only be 2 extra units!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:04 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Debbie :
We give TJ three units of R or H to cover a BS over 400... if that helps.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:02 (EST) - 169.132.97.10
Debbie :
We give TJ three units of R or H to cover a BS over 400... if that helps.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:01 (EST) - 169.132.97.10
Nancy :
Anyone heard of any guidelines of dosage for bs over 500?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:33:00 (EST) - 205.187.209.108
Mike Rothmel:
Is anybody out there?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:30:28 (EST) - mtl-ppp-ct1-12.nothinbut.net
Nancy :
Anyone heard of any guidelines of dosage for bs over 500?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:30:22 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
laura from fl:
Welcome Dennis!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:30:06 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
laura from fl:
Good night Beth!
Nancy, you said he doesn't usually take a nightime dose; does that mean he takes one if he's above a certain #? If so, how much?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:29:09 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Nancy :
Beth, when he is rebounding our history is usually in the mid 200's. I can't tell you the last time we had a reading over 500!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:28:27 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
Thank you Larry for coming! It was great to have a doctor in the house!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:28:12 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Dennis Cardone:
Hello just got here
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:27:58 (EST) - 193.middletown-007.va.dial-access.att.net
Beth :
Think I'll head out. Thanks Melissa.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:27:35 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Nancy :
laura, when Adam woke up this a.m. he was 86 so I really didn't expect this to happen. What percentage to you all think would be appropriate at 531?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:26:50 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
laura from fl:
Hannah just started using H at dinner and bedtime if she's over 180 about a month ago; the endo prefers that for her (now anyway) so I don't have to worry about lows 6 hours later.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:26:26 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Beth :
Nancy - even with Sara's lows we've not dealt with rebound sugars. Yeh, it does sound pretty high for a rebound.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:25:50 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Melissa :
Thanks Moys! Good to see you!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:25:08 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Debbie :
Nancy, I think that anytime there are ketones in the urine you need more insulin. If you have humalog that would be good to use since it wont last so long.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:25:04 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Nancy :
laura/Beth, his hypo yesterday wasn't what I would consider severe, but since he has started on the H the hypos have really decreased. He was 52, but it took me 2 hours to get him to 106. It really does sound like a rebound, but it is rather high though.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:24:27 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Debbie :
Yes, I gave him extra R with his am shot plus two extra units of R at Lunch. At dinner he had his regular shot. Today his numbers were great: 99,128 and 251! Go figure. He went to school today.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:23:40 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
laura from fl:
510 is up there Nancy, I think a little extra insulin would help.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:23:31 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Larry:
Goodnight. Your welcome.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:22:52 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Nancy :
laura, he doesn't ususally take a bedtime injection and yes, we do have Humalog. He recently started using it, however from this forum tonight it sounds as if Regular is what we need at this point.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:22:44 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth :
I was wondering the same thing laura.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:22:32 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
joyce:
Larry.. thanks... hahahah I will most certainly be labeled as difficult mother.. hahahah.. I laugh.. I have been called worse.. thanks again.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:22:17 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
laura from fl:
Could the highs be as a result of his hypo yesterday?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:21:58 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Nancy :
Debbie, did you give TJ any extra insulin?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:21:10 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
laura from fl:
Nancy, maybe you missed my other question. Does he normally get insulin at this hour? How much? and a new one: Do you have H on hand?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:20:14 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Beth :
Middle of nowhere???? Why we're centrally located I'll have you know. :)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:20:04 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Larry:
Joyce- That question puts me in the mind of that one Senfield episode where Elaine tries to get her records changed because they have her labeled as a difficult patient. The more noise you make about it the more trouble you might cause. As a pyhsician, we are always taught that changing a medical record in any way to remove or delete information is considered medical legally fraud. A lot of juries have awarded millions of dollars to plaintiffs because of altered medical records. The most you could ask for is for the doc to add some information to a new note that would better explain or clarify some previous info. This may help. You need to be able to talk to and trust your doctor, though.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:20:04 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Debbie :
Sounds like TJ yesterday. He woke up at 384 with moderate ketones but no signs of illness. I took him to the doctor anyway but he didn't find anything. His BS didn't come down till bedtime!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:19:54 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Nancy :
Last night he had a hypo so he was rather wiped out today. I could get him going this a.m. so he stayed home today. His activity level hasn't been as high. Boy, I sure am stumped. He does not usually take a bedtime injection.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:19:54 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
BRB!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:18:30 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
MOYS:
Hi Melissa, sorry I missed the forum...was in Willy's room much earlier, and server came to a complete stop. Am sure it was a success...((HUGS))
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:18:29 (EST) - myeah.connect.com.au
Laurie:
Beth thats b/c you live in the middle of nowhere
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:18:07 (EST) - www-ah7.proxy.aol.com
Nancy :
laura, I don't really know what is going on, he has trace ketones, but no symtom of illness yet. We haven't done anything unusual so he might be coming down with something.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:17:33 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
laura from fl:
Has he been running high today Nancy?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:17:22 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
joyce:
good night all... thanks..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:17:17 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Melissa :
WOW Nancy!!! Did I miss something?? Is he sick?? How much H or R would he normally get at this time?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:17:11 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Debbie :
Goodnight Joyce!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:16:55 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
joyce:
nancy.. get the R out..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:16:44 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
laura from fl:
Hope to see you again joyce and Larry. Take care.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:16:12 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Nancy :
Okay guys, Adam is 531, any suggestions??????
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:15:28 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Nancy :
Sounds like you have a great outlook Joyce!! It was nice meeting you - goodnight and have a good walk. Good luck and keep us all posted!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:15:22 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Nancy :
Sounds like you have a great outlook Joyce!! It was nice meeting you - goodnight and have a good walk. Good luck and keep us all posted!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:15:16 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Nancy :
Sounds like you have a great outlook Joyce!! It was nice meeting you - goodnight and have a good walk. Good luck and keep us all posted!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:15:16 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Nancy :
Sounds like you have a great outlook Joyce!! It was nice meeting you - goodnight and have a good walk. Good luck and keep us all posted!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:15:16 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth :
Nancy - you're out of my league. Sara's never been that high.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:15:16 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Melissa :
Thanks for coming tonight! I enjoyed having you here!! Come again soon!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:14:56 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
Sounds like you have a great outlook Joyce!! It was nice meeting you - goodnight and have a good walk. Good luck and keep us all posted!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:14:51 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
laura from fl:
Nancy, is he due for some insulin at this hour normally? How much?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:14:51 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
Beth :
I didn't have any trouble Laurie.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:14:18 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
joyce:
Larry, one more quick question, Can I make changes to the content of the records.. I have concerns about the content of my last visit to the allergist.. I am hardly a negligent parent.. and cringe to have it stated as such..or maybe that could just be another one of the "badges" i.e. battle scars a parent carries.. laugh.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:14:13 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Larry:
The kids are screaming, gotta help get them to bed. Thanks for good conversation and good luck all.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:13:50 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Nancy :
Okay guys, Adam is 531, any suggestions??????
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:12:51 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Laurie:
Sorry changed to AOL so I could read your mail Beth. had a very hard time getting on
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:12:39 (EST) - www-ah7.proxy.aol.com
Melissa :
ROFLOL Joyce!!!! hehehe EXACTLY!!! LOL If they start doing this "pre-" thing, we're all going to end up with no insurance and insurance companies will be out of business! It's nonsense!! You're daughter is participating in a research project that could actually help her someday!! What right does anyone have to make assumptions about her because of it??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:12:10 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Larry:
Good night Joyce, enjoy the walk.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:12:05 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
joyce:
I agree with you Nancy...I have 4 kids...and a whole lot going on... it sure would be nice if some things in life were easy... but I must admit... I do find myself looking on the bright side of things.. more than other people..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:11:57 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Well Larry, you sure sound like a great doc and dad also. Thanks for all your great input tonight!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:11:47 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Larry:
Joyce- Exact wording may differ from state to state but the actual records are the property of the clinic or doctor but you have a legal right to review them and have them sent to another physician. Requests for copies might cost you for the actual copying costs.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:11:16 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Nancy :
Joyce, I thought that I would carry the records from one office to the other and remove the letter, but my conscience just wouldn't allow it. Just the knowledge of having two or more children is enough stress never mind worrying about the insurance side of it.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:10:25 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
joyce:
Hmmmm... goood discussion tonight.. speaking of heart attacks.. time to go for a walk and hit the bed... thanks to everyone and thanks to Melissa for getting us together..good night.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:10:00 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Larry:
I have a 7 year old boy who we first diagnosed at age six( one and one half years ago).
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:09:06 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
joyce:
Larry, are the medical records "legally" mine or the clinics?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:08:27 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Melissa :
Good night SFN!! Thanks for coming!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:08:10 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Larry:
A doctor can put anything in a medical record that pertains to a patient but what happens to that information is what the doctor legally is responsible for. I would ask the doctor not to let that part of the chart to be copied and released and see what he says. Records cannot be legally released without your permission but you sign releases of information when you sign up for insurance coverage.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:07:05 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
joyce:
I love your humor Melissa... yah.. pre heart attack.. who would fit into this category??? that fat man writing the prescritptions??? EXCUSSSSEE MEEEEE... it has been a long day..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:06:41 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Hi Laura from Florida!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:04:46 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
LOL!! So someone who's got alot of fat in their diet should be called "pre-heart attack"!

I know what you mean Joyce! I see a real difference in my family doctor depending on whether we see him first thing in the morning or at the end of the day!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:04:32 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
Well put Larry, how old is your child that has "D"?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:04:16 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth :
Evening Laura.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:03:52 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
laura from fl:
Hi Everyone!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:02:54 (EST) - 76.st-louis-008.mo.dial-access.att.net
joyce:
why would a doctor feel obligated to put some information im a patients record about a condition which does not exist, hypothetically, could they be medically negiligent for reporting someone as "prediabetic" does that condition exisit in the DSMIII or whatever used to diagnosis?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:02:30 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Joyce, I was really upset so I call the Research Coordinator and she assured me that if this did become an issue with an insurance company that they would become involved and do what they could to interven and hopefully the insurance company would gain a new outlook on exactly what this research is all about.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 22:00:44 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
SFN........California RN.....:
1900 in California... sorry .. my time is UP.....
Time for me to bounce outta here....
i'll read the archive later... thanks for letting me participate...... POOF......
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:59:43 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
Larry:
I have to be honest- I don't know if you can get her records changed. If a patient asked me not to report something to an insurance company I knew was true, I would have to consider the consequence of hiding pertinent info which is called insurance fraud. On the other hand, if someone doesn't have a disease or illness and only is genetically predisposed, it is unethical, I feel, for an insurance company not to insure them. Being involved in a scientific study does not put you at a high risk of illness. I would think, actually, you would be a lower risk wanting to prevent illness. Who knows?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:59:11 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Larry:
I have to be honest- I don't know if you can get her records changed. If a patient asked me not to report something to an insurance company I knew was true, I would have to consider the consequence of hiding pertinent info which is called insurance fraud. On the other hand, if someone doesn't have a disease or illness and only is genetically predisposed, it is unethical, I feel, for an insurance company not to insure them. Being involved in a scientific study does not put you at a high risk of illness. I would think, actually, you would be a lower risk wanting to prevent illness. Who knows?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:58:47 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Melissa :
Yea it does SFN! So that's my dilema! the next time she gets sick, should I use the routine we always use (which usually results in a very high blood sugar before we're done) Or should I chance the NPH and just reduce the R???

Nancy, I got a great letter from someone that I posted in the message board! They have switched to H but keep R on hand for sick days! They switch to the R when their son is throwing up cause it takes longer to start working!! I guess it gives her more time to get something in him!! Then they treat highs with H! Then go back to the H when he's better!

Laurie, I've seen some things about that watch! I think one company is sueing the other company over it saying that someone messed up the testing on it and fudged the numbers!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:58:47 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
Nancy... that is awful.. I think you can have it removed.. someone told me that in cases of mental health.. when someone is admitted or seeks treatment for mental health reasons, that can be removed.. maybe I got wrong info.. YAH, IS PREDIABETIC A NEW MEDICAL CONDITION??? you would have some legal grounds there i would think..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:57:36 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
SFN........California RN.....:
Nancy..sorry.... I haven't had that many patients on humalog to be able to answer that.....my patients are Cardiac mostly and some of my Cardiac patients have Diabetes....
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:56:13 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
joyce:
Melissa...you know that doctors are only human.. and in their minds (or so I think) they only view the medical part of a kid.. the here and now.. and in my case.. they were concerned about their liability... and job and own mental health.. I understand that.. because in my job.. I often detach.. and it takes an active vocal parent to "wake" me up...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:55:24 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Joyce, I mistakenly gave a copy of the letter that confirmed our daughter was ICA positive and our Peditrician put it in her file and said it was now a permanent part of her file and it was also illegal to remove it. I have now changed peditricians and we have resolved a few things. Some insurance companies view it as a pre-diabetic. What is a pre-diabetic, I have never heard of a pre-cancer etc.!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:55:03 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth :
I would have given almost anything for that watch a couple of weeks ago.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:54:25 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Debbie :
TJ's doctor has recomended using Humalog on sick days to cover highs. I've tried it a few times and it seems to work well.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:53:43 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
joyce:
thanks for the advice and encouragement...my next battle is trying to get Erin's medical records changed.. such things.. one more thing to take care of..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:52:55 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Melissa :
EXACTLY Larry!! There are LOTS of doctors out there and most of us have a wide choice!! They're supposed to be helping us take care of our children!! That's what they're getting paid for!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:52:48 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Sorry Beth I had to say it.
Really neat on discovery channel they are working on needlelees injections using ultrasound. Painless.Also a watch that measures BG's then delivers insulin according to the level
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:52:36 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Beth :
Lyn?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:52:00 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
SFN........California RN.....:
I hear what you are saying POM and I agree... so are you giving NPH or not... thought you said that the literature that you have requires you to keep up the NPH.....
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:52:00 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
Nancy :
Melissa/SFN, do you think that Humalog could be given in place of the R? Or would it be best to keep a bottle of R on hand?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:51:22 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Larry:
I do not know if Accolate affects blood sugars. I do not think so but I don't have my information here at home to check. I have not used it in a diabetic yet. I'll certainly be checking tomorrow.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:51:05 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
joyce:
Larry and Melissa, I agree with you.. we recently changed insurances and thus the new doctors... I really do not think their is a physican I can trust.. despite requesting them not to put info in Erin's chart about her involvement with the DPT it somehow is now part of her medical record.. I was told I could have that changed, Is that so?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:50:43 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Debbie :
If your child wakes up with very high blood sugar and ketones in the urine; but does not appear to be sick, should you keep them home from school?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:49:49 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Melissa :
SFN, once she can keep food down, then the NPH will cover a longer period of time so she won't have to have so many shots!! But if she can't keep anything down, then it's good to know that she won't have that peak of NPH to fight off later on in the day! When she's sick, I give the R when she needs it! Once she's gotten 4 shots of R in a day and she's keeping food down, then we'll go back to the old routine of 3 shots a day including NPH.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:49:12 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Larry:
I agree with Melissa. What keeps you going back to a doctor who doesn't listen to you, take any suggestions, or even seem to give a darn about your kid's health? Get a new physician you can trust and talk to. There are a lot out there!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:47:19 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Nancy :
Joyce, I can't understand why a doctor would respond like that!!!:-( If it weren't for research we wouldn't be where we are at today in medical science.
Sounds very insensitive to me, and I really hate to hear about a reaction like this. This mentality could really affect how our research dollars are spent!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:58 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Debbie :
OOps!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:58 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
joyce:
Melissa, I agree...about the doctors... and thanks Larry for the information about Accolate.. I will check it out with our family practice doctor..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:44 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Debbie :
Larry, does Accolate raise the blood sugar?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:41 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Debbie :
Larry, does Accolate raise the blood sugar?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:33 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Laurie:
BRB special on discovery channel. Needleless injections
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:33 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
SFN........California RN.....:
Yea POM.. sorry I only deal with adults....and if they are on an insulin drip I check every 2 hours.. sometimes one.... Is that every 2 hours around the clock....why would you need NPH.. if you were covering every 2 hours around the clock????
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:45:24 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
Beth :
Laurie!!!!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:44:54 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Melissa :
LAURIE!!!! Now, now...... *wagging finger at Laurie*
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:44:41 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
laurie, your asthma routine sounds similiar to ours... Erin is getting good at knowing what her peak flow is before she takes it.. usually within 25 or so.. what a girl..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:44:05 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Larry:
The medicine Accolate is not a steroid or any relation to steroids, it is a pill that prevents the airways from reacting to whatever triggers asthma in a person whether it is from allergies, exercise or stress. Most common side effect has been headaches which have required medicine but this has only lasted about 2-3 weeks. Of course, only your physician can prescribe medicine. ( Don't you hate disclaimers?)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:44:01 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Melissa :
Joyce, it sounds like it's time to get yourself a new doctor who understands what's going on with diabetes these days or is willing to learn about it!!! I just can't stand insensitive doctors and I won't put up with them!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:43:31 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Beth is it a cowboy??? LOL
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:42:56 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
SFN........California RN.....:
Bye Stacy......
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:42:28 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
joyce:
Beth, does you child with diabetes play basketball also? mine does and he runs cross country? any tricks I should share with him?? luckily he like gatorade..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:42:26 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Laurie:
Yes Larry what is it a have a daughter with asthma. She uses two inhalers daily and ventolin as needed. She also uses the nebulizer depending on her peak flow
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:42:06 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Melissa :
WOW SFN!! Every 6 hours??? I check her every 2 hours!!! Do you deal with adult diabetics? Children's blood sugars jump alot more than an adult's!!!

Everyone be sure to check out the links on sick days that I found! That Parent's Guide is really nice! Not so much for sick days but it tells about particular things for each age group of kids who have diabetes!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:41:29 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
Thanks Stacy.. Yes we must remember, that parents are their kids best advocates... just be wise when you become honest..smile..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:41:21 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Beth :
Laurie - let me know your reaction!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:41:08 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Laurie:
Thanks Beth I'll have to check my mail on AOL.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:40:10 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Beth :
That's sent.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:39:50 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
joyce:
Larry, hahaha should I ask the insentive allergist??? thanks, I will.. are there any side effects? is it oral or inhaled?? is is a steriod or derivative??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:39:44 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Stacy:
I have to go talk to you later.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:39:37 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Debbie :
Larry, is Accolate an oral medicine?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:39:35 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
joyce:
Nancy.. hahahah this doctor told me why do I bother with the DPT.. "it is only research and will most likely be an unsuccessful study..." That really infuriated me... thanks for your words.. Yes, I will keep talking.. just maybe wiser at times.. laugh.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:38:17 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Debbie :
TJ was allergic to almost everthing on the skin test! They wanted to try the allergy shots when he turned five but he freaked at the sight of more needles... So we stick with the Intal...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:38:13 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Stacy:
If we don't speak up on behalf of our kids who will?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:37:57 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Beth :
Laurie - they have one tournament left. Just two games. Track's next. Since you an e-mail.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:37:54 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
SFN........California RN.....:
I hear ya about the NPH POM... how often are ya checking blood sugars when she is sick????..... sometimes we check each 6 hours. sometimes each 4... and if they are getting well.... we check and cover with regular before meals and at bedtime...... (ac & hs)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:37:45 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
Stacy:
If we don't speak up on behalf of our kids who will?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:37:34 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Larry:
Joyce- Has your allergist mentioned the new asthma drug called Accolate? So far I have gotten a couple asthmatics off inhalers almost totally using this twice a day medicine. Pretty cool. Ask about it.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:36:51 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
joyce:
Erin is 7, whoops, almost 8... she is not diabetic.. her brother jesse (13) is.. Speaking of my son with diabetes.. any other athletes with diabetes out there.. ?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:36:36 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Stacy:
Joyce have you seen a respiratory therapist, they helped my son the most.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:36:12 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Debbie :
Joyce, TJ sees an allergist for his asthma.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:35:51 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Nancy :
Joyce, I also am too honest at times and have felt that it got me in trouble, but I just keep going back to the fact that this is my child and I am going to ask away! I wish you much luck, and hopefully you will find an understanding doctor. Have you suggested to the doc. that he speak with the researchers involved with the DPT-1. They might be able to shine some light!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:35:43 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
Laurie my Humalog was broken before I even had a chance to try it out on a sick day!!!

Bye Jimbo!! Come back again soon!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:34:57 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
Larry, I agree with you.. but as a parent.. one hoping for cures and miracles.. I hope that maybe someone new would have been able to provide the options I wanted...someone suggested I see a pulmonary specialist for my ashtmatic.. but I guess the allergist seemed appropriate since allergies are what (supposedly) triggers her asthma.. skin testing was quite reactive to most everything in the fall.. thanks..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:34:28 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Stacy:
Thanks jimbo
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:33:33 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
SFN........California RN.....:
Yo ron.... love the roses... but course I wouldn't dare post thw one's that Pix put in the BOP room. have you seen those......Megga bytes man.... but GEORGEOUS....... I is fine ron......REAL FINE.... well at least that is what I is TOLD......lol.....((((((... sorry to distract you guys.. don't mind us over here in the CORNER.....lol....)))))
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:33:32 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
Debbie :
Sorry, I got booted! Beth I'm glad that things are better with Sara....Joyce, how old is your daughter? How do you control the asthma? TJ takes Intal via nebulizer and Proventil as needed when he is having trouble. The worst times are when he has a cold and the asthma is really hard to control; which makes him throw up; which knocks the diabetes control for a loop! We have had to make a few emergency room visits,but no admissions since diagnisis.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:33:28 (EST) - ppp-10.ts-3.nyc.idt.net
Melissa :
Hi SFN!! I'm so glad to see you!! I felt so bad we got cut off today but it was so great talking to you! I half expected the phone to ring for the rest of the day!! LOL
What you describe is exactly what we've been doing for years! But I've read so many times that we should always keep the NPH on board so now I'm beginning to wonder!

Hi Shorty!! Great to see you!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:32:43 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Beth is she still playing basketball?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:32:24 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
jimbo:
Stacy e-mail me your adress and I will keep in touch
thompson@ycs.ab.ca
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:32:13 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
joyce:
Nancy, these were new to me doctors I was dealing with last week.. I think possibly.. I was too knowledgable.. at the wrong time... NOT THAT I WANT TO TAKE the blame for how they treated me.. but sometimes.. I am too honest.. should have just taken the prescription for the oral prednisone and just not filled it.. heck, I already had prednisone at home which i was intentionally not giving her..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:31:37 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Larry:
Joyce- I wasn't ignoring your last comment, my one year old unplugged my modem cord and I had to restart the computer. Kids. As far as your concerns about your daughter's doctor- is there anyone else who would be able to care for her? You don't need an allergist to take care of asthma. I care for a lot of asthmatics without any trouble.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:31:23 (EST) - will_34s.citynet.net
Laurie:
Wow Beth that is a big jump from 1/4 of a unit. Hope it works for you
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:30:57 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
jimbo:
time for me to go, thanks everyone for the info ttfn
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:30:16 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Melissa :
Hi Debbie!! I'm so glad you're here!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:29:45 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Has anyone treated sickness with Humalog?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:29:42 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Stacy:
jimbo if you find one tell me! ;)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:29:37 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Beth :
2 units of UltraLente taken about 6:30 in the evening.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:29:01 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
joyce:
Debbie, has TJ ever needed to be on prednisone?? does he use inhaled steriod (beclovent???) and if so, how does that affect his bg?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:28:44 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
ron:
hey sfn
how ya doin' girl
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:28:33 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Laurie:
Thats great Beth what is her dose now?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:28:07 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Shorty*Dallas*
:
Melissa!! Hi and bye! Forum looked good!! Sorry I missed it!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:27:36 (EST) - iadfw-hgw-1-3431.its.iadfw.net
jimbo:
Stacy we are going to check Calgary to see who is available there
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:27:36 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
SFN........California RN.....:
POM..... hello.... just lurking for a bit.....I think that even though your advice was given years ago it is still good... when a diabetic is hospitalized we check blood sugars as often as "needed"... and treat with REGULAR only...when they get better we start up the NPH again.... of course all of this with MD orders...Hello ron and others.... just gonna sit back for a while.... I am LEARNING.......
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:27:20 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net
joyce:
Debbie, My daughter does not yet have diabetes (keep our fingers crossed) but she does have quite severe asthma.. you are a busy woman keeping diabetes and asthma in check..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:26:50 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Melissa :
Those glucose tablets just don't seem strong enough to me! Kristina has to eat 4 or 5 of them just to get 15 carbs! I think juice works so much better, under normal circumstances!

Stacy, I've never heard of those popcycles but they sound wonderful!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:26:37 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Perfect Joyce! Also makes you more aware of what is going on with their bodies. The slightest rise in sugar levels makes you go in a tail spin wondering why. There have been highs we have never been able to explain.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:26:32 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Beth :
She's doing fine. No more lows. No highs. Finally some rest!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:26:30 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Nancy :
Joyce, I find that if a parent seems to be knowledgable that it is taken the wrong way at times. I feel it is our responsibility as a parent to arm ourselves with as much knowledge as we can, an afterall we are the ones that deal with the day-to-day stress of this illness. We only see our endo once every 3 months for approx. 20 minutes. It sure is hard to get it all in in that amount of time!!! I'm with you!!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:26:27 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
jimbo:
it sure does Joyce, I no longer grumble when the coke machine is out of coke
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:26:07 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Debbie :
Hi Beth! How's Sara?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:25:54 (EST) - ppp-49.ts-8.nyc.idt.net
Debbie :
Joyce is your child asthmatic also? TJ was diagnosed with diabetes at three and six months later: asthma!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:25:27 (EST) - ppp-49.ts-8.nyc.idt.net
Beth :
Joyce - Debbie here is the one that has TJ who has both diabetes and asthma.
Hi Debbie.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:25:05 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Stacy:
We have been trying to even discuss putting Meghan on Humalog to try but he just brushes me off.
Also from the beginning I've had a hard time trying to be taken as maybe knowing something he didn't tell me.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:25:00 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
joyce:
Laurie, I think having children with chronic illnesses helps you keep a perspecitive on what is important... does that make sense?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:23:58 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Debbie :
Hi, I give TJ ice pops when he's sick to his stomach. It works really well.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:23:27 (EST) - ppp-49.ts-8.nyc.idt.net
Melissa :
Yes Maureen! I've been saving this all tonight!! The cutey in the corner with all the roses is our webmaster and I'm sure he'll be happy to put it up in a hurry for everyone to read!! :-)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:23:25 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
Melissa, we give Adam Emetrol and it really works well. We also keep giving him glucose tabs.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:22:05 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
joyce:
Larry, Yes, I will keep asking questions.. except it is difficult when as a parent who has dealt with asthma for almost 10 years, when I am honest with my doctor.. looking for options... I am threatened with being "reported"... I am discounted as a knowledgable and able parent...You are right though, having a diabetic of your own provided you with a special sensitivity which obviouslly is lacking in the allergist and pediatrician we dealt with last week.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:21:57 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
jimbo:
Stacey do you get that from Couch that he doesn't listen to you too?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:21:56 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Stacy:
Melissa have you tried the new Pedialyte popsicles?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:21:14 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Stacy:
I live in Edmonton
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:20:31 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Melissa :
Yea, just the regular and only when she gets up in the 200's! That's when she can't keep anything down! It's been several years since this was recommended and I think I need a new routine! But it scares me to death to know she has nothing to counter that insulin she's got on board for the day! She has a hard time even keep ing 7-up down!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:20:26 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
jimbo:
Maureen I take it we have another Albertan in Stacey
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:19:52 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
ron:

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:19:23 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Maureen:
Stacy, yes Nicole has seen him for almost a year now. Must go, bye!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:19:04 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Stacy:
What do you do if there is only one endo and he won't listen to you?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:18:54 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Laurie:
LOL Joyce I think someone knows I couldn't handle having two diabetics, one daughter with asthma and dealing with sickness to boot.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:18:45 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Maureen:
I must go too. Melissa, will we be able to read a transcript after this forum? Thanks everyone for your information!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:18:19 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Nancy :
Beth, that is a good way to explain it, Adam is also very healthy - we all got sick but he escaped it.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:18:13 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Stacy:
Maureen do you see Dr Couch now?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:17:50 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
ron:
This one smells even better!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:17:44 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Melissa :
Bye Leann!! Thanks for coming!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:17:27 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
The rose is sweet... looks nice.. laugh
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:16:24 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Larry:
Joyce- I agree that the medical profession is not always as sympathetic as they should be. I have a seven year old diabetic child and, although I have treated diabetics for years, I learned a totally different dimension to caring for a diabetic child having one of my own. No matter who you are dealing with, though, you need to stand up for what you feel is right. Keep asking questions.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:16:07 (EST) - will_22s.citynet.net
Maureen:
Thanks, Stacy. It's just that Dr. Martin looked after all her needs, and was a kind and compassionate doctor. I would recommend him, if I knew where he went in the US.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:15:57 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Beth :
Laurie - we've always told Sara that she was quite healthy. She just gets her insulin in a different way than we do. May not be right for everyone but has worked for us.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:15:56 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
joyce:
Laurie.. that is the diabetic paradox.. they are healthy.. except for... inspite of...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:14:41 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Beth :
So what do you use when she's sick Melissa? Regular??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:14:34 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Melissa :
Bye Paula! Thanks for coming!! Come again soon! Someone is almost always here!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:14:32 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Stacy:
We just had Dr Couch but I heard he went to the States, I could find out for you.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:14:13 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Melissa :
We were told a few years ago to completely stop using the NPH when Kristina was really sick and couldn't keep anything down!! Then we wouldn't have to fight that NPH during the night or something!! It meant more shots but we were told to give her a shot whenever she went above 250! By the time she was getting 4 shots in one day, we knew it was ok to go back to using NPH!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:13:33 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
jimbo:
thanks Nancy we might have to check it out
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:13:17 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Paula:
Thanks everyone for all the enfo.Bye for now.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:13:09 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Maureen:
Nancy, thank-you. I will get to the bottom of this! Stacy, did you ever see Dr. Martin? If you did, do you know where he went?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:12:50 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
joyce:
Larry, yes she is not to be on steriods for the DPT, prior to some of the testing.. yes we are getting into medical ethics here.. but what upsets me is having to deal with a medical community who refused to see my daughter as a potential diabetic... yes, I understand their concern for the present.. but as a mother, I am in it for the long haul... it was an awful situation to be put in.. I wanted to know what their stake in her was.. and they made me the unreasonable one.. such is the parent dilemna..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:12:49 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
ron:
This is for
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:12:19 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Beth :
Hi Stacy.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:11:42 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
leann:
Melissa, this is a great forum sorry I can't stay. ttfn
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:11:31 (EST) - 205.217.27.28
Stacy:
Hello everyone

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:11:08 (EST) - ip187.max01.ascend.planet.eon.net
Nancy :
Maureen, this is the # for the Gainsville Center and they are most helpful - 1-800-749-7424 ext. 2-7836 - hope this helps.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:10:28 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
joyce:
Nancy... oral and inhaled steriods are not to be used by those in the DPT staging process... we worked hard to keep our daughter off of them so she could get to the point she is now.. yes, we have a research coordinator...thanks!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:09:50 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Maureen:
Our doc is quite adamant, that we make decisions based on the Ketones. If Ketones, more Insulin. He gave a sliding scale for different blood sugars with Ketones, etc.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:09:36 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Larry:
Joyce- Were you told not to have your daughter take steroids with this DPT-1? Also, there are other medications other than steroids that can be effective for an asthma attack, although steroids can be effective. Heck, what if she were allergic to steroids?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:09:11 (EST) - will_22s.citynet.net
Laurie:
Yes we do leann but it is two years old. I guess I better check the date on it. Like I said the boys have never been healthier. If you call having diabetes being healthy
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:08:45 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Melissa :
Good night Karen!! I'm soo glad you came!! Lets get together soon and chat!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:08:39 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
Jimbo, no we are in MN.. never heard of him..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:08:15 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Joyce, which one of your other children has diabetes. We were told that we are to treat our daughter as if we had no knowledge of her risk of developing IDDM. I don't think that the steroids would affect the results of the DPT, but if you have any questions contact the research center. Do you have a Diabetes Research Coordinator?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:08:07 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
If you click on "Sick Day Rules for Diabetes", they give an indepth explanation at how to increase the insulin! I usually increase by 1 or 2 units depending on how high she is! But I always just took my best guess! I was pleased with this article to find out I had been doing it right all along!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:07:48 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
jimbo:
Maureen- ah yes Dr. Lawrence Martin was very good anyone in central USA heard of him?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:07:37 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Beth :
Thanks Brenda - I just wasn't figuring that out.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:07:03 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Laurie:
Thank you Brenda
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:06:33 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
leann:
laurie, do you have phenegren on hand?? we didn't when my son got the flu but we should have. it is a sepository to stop naseau.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:05:28 (EST) - 205.217.27.28
Maureen:
Nancy, the reason I said that was because we filled out a survey here as to whether we would be interested in being tested. I said yes, but never heard a word back from them.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:05:24 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
jimbo:
Lyn we are presently doing just that with Breanna only we were told 5%
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:05:18 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Laurie:
Nite Karen
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:05:18 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
joyce:
Larry, thanks.. I felt I was the victim of circumstances which I could have prevented if I would not have taken my daughter to a routine visit to her allergist... she was wheezing.. quite badly.. but this fluctuates... but she had been quite wheezy through the weekend... and the doctor said he would report me to CPS if I did not agree to giving her oral steriods.. which I did not want to do becuase of her involvment with the DPT...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:05:11 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Brenda F.:
Infection in a diabetic makes their body even more resistant to insulin, this is why their bs usually go up (not always) and why you usually need to give more insulin
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:04:52 (EST) - and-002-27.iquest.net
Karen:
Karen,
Good night all! Thanks for the chat! I'll
be back another time.Take care.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:04:17 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Maureen:
Jimbo, my daughter Nicole is 11 (Dx 4 yrs ago). Dr. Couch has too many patients. I preferred Dr. Martin, but he went south of the border.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:04:16 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Laurie:
I have been very lucky they have never been sick! but I want to be prepared
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:03:58 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Nancy :
Maureen, the people involved in the DPT-1 are not hand picked. It is on a volunteer basis only, however, you have to meet the protocol of the study. We are enrolled and it took 1 year and that is fast. There are many other factors other than being ICA positive. The people in Gainsville could answer all your questions if you are interested.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:03:22 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
leann:
when my son had the flu and couldn't keep anything down in the evening, the Dr. told us to decrease his nighttime insulin
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:02:28 (EST) - 205.217.27.28
joyce:
Anne, I do not consider myself a negligent parent.. it is me I am inquiring about.. because of situation that happend recently to me... it has to do with asthma, oral steriods and my daughter who is a candidte for th DPT study...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:01:56 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Lyn:
Laurie, when Jessica is sick and running below 150 in the AM and unable to eat due to nausea/vomiting, we ONLY give the regular dose of Ultrelente...then if needed, we can always chase her with R or H, should she go high during the day. I was told if they are over 150 to add 10% of your total daily dose..I've NEVER done that! Do you increase the boys when they are sick?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:01:12 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Brenda F.:
Our endo gave us a formula for sick days when they are running high, you take total number doses of insulin for the day (might have to guesstamate) then divide by five and give this # you get every 2-4 hrs. depending how sick they are and how high their bs are
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:01:01 (EST) - and-002-27.iquest.net
Karen:
Melissa,
I'd LOVE to...if I only had the time! This
place is addictive!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:00:57 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Larry:
Joyce- I am a physician who has worked in an emergency room for 5 years and a family practicioner for 7. I can respond to your question from my experiences in Ohio. Each state may have different laws but generally they are similar. Under a health care protection law, a physician or other health care provider can report any suspicion of child abuse even for neglecting what may be considered essential health care. They are protected under law unless obviously negligent in reporting. It has to be followed up by a social worker to investigate. But only if they find out about what's being done.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:00:48 (EST) - will_22s.citynet.net
joyce:
Nancy, I do not know which of her test are positive and which just came back negative... but she has had positive tests to both antibodies, just when they retested her, one came back negative... hoping for another negative..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:00:17 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Ji,mbo, the Diabetes Prevention Trial is funded by the Nat'l Institute of Health and the JDA. The nearest center to you would be the Univ. of Minn or I can provide you with a toll free # in Florida.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:00:12 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Lisa:
We give extra insulin if bg's are high and ketones are present. If Kait is throwing up however the bg's are usually low so I don't give extra insulin.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:00:08 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
Anne:
Joyce. If the childs health is in danger the doctor should report it. Is the parent negligent?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 21:00:05 (EST) - 207.115.232.8
Beth :
I guess I don't understand extra insulin if they can't keep food down anyway. What causes the sugars to go high??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:59:30 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Karen:
Joyce,
It may have been called another name, but we were
called to Boston and had blood work done to test our
susceptibility to diabetes. I believe the test was
good,(my husband thinks) for about 7 years. Joslin Diabetes
Ctr. was pretty "up to date", but maybe we're not talking about
the same test.!?*
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:59:30 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Melissa :
:-) Yes Karen!!! Come "practise" with us every morning and afternoon and we'll make a pro out of ya!!! hehehehe
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:59:26 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Maureen:
Jimbo, my next appointment is in April, and that is the first question I will ask him. I have a feeling the people involved are hand picked.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:59:05 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
joyce:
Nancy, no the protective is not present (the gene?) and she has both antibodies to pancreas and insulin,...
Anne.. under what circumstances and what action would they take? this is hard for me to talk about..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:58:36 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Laurie:
I was told you give extra insulin when they are sick . Does everyone do this? and what happens when you do?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:58:25 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
jimbo:
Maureen who is your child. Couch is our endo as well, not too impressed with him
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:58:20 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Nancy :
Joyce, what I meant to say was is the protective gene present?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:57:53 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
joyce:
Jimbo, I do not know.. since it is probably funded with some US federal type monies...I do not know where near Cleavland is the nearest test site... are you sure Karen, it was my understanding the DPT just started a few years (less than 2) ago.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:56:48 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Joyce, do you know if your daughter is IAA positive and is the protective present?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:55:58 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Anne:
I used to be a social worker for San Diego County and the answer is YES
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:55:58 (EST) - 207.115.232.8
jimbo:
maureen we are in Hinton Alberta. Not too many endo's in alberta
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:55:56 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Maureen:
Jimbo, it looks like you are from Alberta too. Our doc, Dr.Couch has never mentioned anything to me, but we did receive a survey in the mail concerning the DPT trials.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:55:54 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Melissa :
I always seem to panic if Kristina throws up right after her shot! I know I'll be fighting that insulin for the rest of the day and almost always, she'll end up high! I have the hardest time keeping her within a decent range when she's sick!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:55:18 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
I have a question I would like to ask those online... does anyone know if a dr. can report a parent to child protection services (i.e. county social workers) for refusing medical treatment for their child?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:54:50 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Karen:
Joyce,Gosh...We had better get tested again.
It's been probably 8-9 years!I'm in Cleveland
and I believe it's done here. I hope all check out
for your daughter!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:54:29 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
:
.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:54:13 (EST) - www-ac7.proxy.aol.com
jimbo:
are these tests available in Canada?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:54:08 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Maureen:
Nancy, the Boost was quite tastey. Unfortunately I wasn't stocked up and had to find an open pharmacy early Monday morning. (We had family day here in Alberta - a holiday, and it was tough finding something open before I could give her the Insulin. Next time, I will have a six pack on hand!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:53:34 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Nancy :
Joyce, has your daughter had an OGTT or a MMTT yet.

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:53:27 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
joyce:
Karen, we get notices for rechecks from the U of MN... hubby and I, I think are clear forever, Jay (age 15) and Kelsey (age 6) are tested every year, and Erin (age 8) is the one who is ICA positive x1 and negative x1... hope she will be negative x2...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:52:15 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Karen:
Thanks, Melissa. I think I've got it.
I feel so inept!!I guess it will come with
practice!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:51:28 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Laurie:
Karen depends on the age of those being tested. Kate is 13 and will test every two years
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:50:52 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Nancy :
Maureen, I recently saw that product at the drug store. Did you happen to taste it and was your daughter receptive about drinking it. That might be something to keep on hand.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:50:41 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Brenda F.:
If you give them sugar pop or anything else sugary, even if they throw up some of that sugar gets absorbed
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:50:10 (EST) - and-002-27.iquest.net
Lisa:
Melissa, that is why we ended up at the emergency room last year. However, we did not go to the Children's Hospital in the city but to our local hospital. I don't think I would do that again since the ER doc didn't seem to know too much about JD.
I was happy that Kait wasn't put on an IV, and got through it OK. Later my endo said that they would have been much more proactive and would have put her on an IV.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:50:08 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
joyce:
Nancy, yes I think we have been through the staging process... Erin only has to have the last IGVT done.... only if her last IAC also is postive (I think this is where she is at... many things in our family to keeptrack of.. hahha)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:50:00 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Melissa :
No Karen. Next time you click on the talk button, be sure there is nothing in the box! After the screen comes up, click on bookmarks and then on Add Bookmark!

Bye Alison!! Come again soon! I'm almost always here!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:49:42 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
jimbo:
Melissa we just kept feeding breanna fluids (regular pop, koolaid etc.) and cut her insulin in half. when she threw up we just fed her more
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:49:25 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Karen:
Joyce,
We were all tested several years ago
(DPT) at the Joslin Diabetes Ctr. in
Boston and were clear.Do you know how often
one should test?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:48:54 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Nancy :
Melissa, I use Emetrol or Phenergan, and at one time I was told to use both because Adam also had diarhea.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:48:31 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
joyce:
Nancy, no he is not part of the research team.. he is a toxicologist with extensive background in biochemistry... so.. this is a hahahah... he should be able to put some of that technical knowledge to work for his family... just laughing..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:47:53 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Maureen:
Melissa, we used sugar pop, and sugar popsicles too. She managed to keep these down.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:47:47 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Beth :
Melissa - even regular 7-Up??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:47:32 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Maureen:
This is straying a bit but Nicole had the flu this weekend. (Thanks Lyn for the support if you are lurking!) We used Boost (a meal replacement shake), because she couldn't eat solid food. After about 24 hours she was at least keeping the boost down, and it helped us through a tough one. It contains about 36 grams of carbohydrate.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:46:36 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
joyce:
Nancy, we are at the U of MN, Mpls, MN...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:46:31 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Joyce, is your hubby part of the research team? And if so, where?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:46:03 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
What do you all do on days when NOTHING stays down and you just gave the morning shot?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:46:01 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
Jimbo, the DPT is a nation (US) wide study.. it is the Diabetes Prevention Trials, it is open to sibling, parents and first cousins of junvenile diabetics... the purpose is to identify those with early (no physical symptoms) of diabetes and try to stop them from developing the disease.. this is quite a simple explanation..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:45:17 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Karen:
Melissa,
It's about time we moms got our
comp. time!!!Ali understands about
Kristina being busy,,please tell
her that's fine!She says HI!!
How do I bookmark? go back to the start and
hit bookmark??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:44:21 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
ron:


Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:44:11 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Arlene Mishanie:
This is Arlene again! I need to sign off now. I must say that I need more practice with these chat lines! I would like to hear from anyone with a 6 year old diabetic child. E-mail me at Esassoon@aol.com . Thanks for your patience!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:44:11 (EST) - www-az7.proxy.aol.com
Nancy :
Joyce, have you been through the staging process and Mary and Joyce, what center are you at? We are in the Univ. of FL, Gainsville.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:43:35 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Maureen:
Joyce - the IV steroids really increased her blood sugars. We were sent home on inhaled steroids, and the doc said these shouldn't really affect her sugars, but it was two weeks before she was back to normal. The combination asthma/diabetes is no fun!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:43:23 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
joyce:
Nancy, if her last test is positive, she will go into the randomized oral insulin part of the study... she we will not know (unless hubby figures out the assay to detect insulin hahahah) of the study... should know .. maybe this week. It is the news no parent really wants to hear.. OH NO.. Can it get any worse.. laugh..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:43:12 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Anne:
Hi I have a 4year old with diabetes and a 6 and 8 year old that I choose not to participate in the DPT trial. I wonder what percentage of people participate and want to know?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:42:53 (EST) - 207.115.232.8
jimbo:
Joyce what is DPT?
boy I feel like a real dummy!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:42:15 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
joyce:
Mary, is this her first postive test?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:40:51 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Melissa :
Oh Karen!!! I'm sooo glad you finally made it!! Be sure you bookmark it so it's easier to get here!! Kristina won't be able to write to Ali tonight cause I'm HOGGING the computer!! hehehehe But she wants me to tell you HI TO ALI for her!! We're going to be gone all weekend too so she won't be able to write till Monday!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:40:09 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
joyce:
cute, the hearts...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:40:09 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
joyce:
cute, the hearts...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:40:01 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
mary:
our 7 y.o. daughter tested positive for ICA's and is due back up in two weeks.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:40:01 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Laurie:
Joyce my oldest son patrick was dx'ed through the DPT study. Thats great on the on neg. test!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:39:51 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Nancy :
Joyce, hi, our daughter Emily age 10 is in the DPT also. She is in the upper arm - Insulin Injection Trial, the Control Group! What arm is your daughter in?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:39:36 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
jimbo:
Mary just click on where Ron wrote Phenergan overdose, it will go to that page, then add it to your favorites list.then click the back button to come back here
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:39:32 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
joyce:
Maureen, I assume the IV steriod (prednisone) increased the bg??? how long did it take for those to clear her system?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:39:01 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
ron:

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:38:55 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
mary:
joyce, they are made with sugar. i found that out from my endo. she suggested using the chewables which don't have sugar...made o world of difference in bs levels
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:38:11 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Lisa:
I often think Kait is getting a cold because of a day of high bg's. Usually by the second day the gg's are back to relatively normal. Do others have this experience?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:37:51 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
joyce:
OH, thanks guys.. laughing.. for the good news.. but I do have good news (maybe) regarding our daughter (the one with asthma) who may be entering the DPT... she now has 1 positive antibody test and 1 negative.. so, if the one they took last week comes back negative.. YAHOOO... she will not start the oral insulin part of the study.. anyone else out there involved with the DPT?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:37:43 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Maureen:
Hi JOyce. Just catching up here, my daughter has both diabetes and asthma. The only time we really had problems with both was when she was on IV steroids in the hospital. They apparently wreak havoc on blood sugars!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:37:36 (EST) - portal.connect.ab.ca
Melissa :
Mary put a larger number than 8 in that box above the message box! Then after hitting the talk button, scroll down to where you left off and read UPWARDS!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:37:13 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Joyce what arm of the study are you in? Upper Insulin or lower pills?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:36:59 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Brenda F.:
anytime our dtr. is the least bit sick her bgs. go up,Zithromax is a good antibiotic because you only have to take it 2X a day the first day, then once a day for 4 more days.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:36:16 (EST) - and-002-27.iquest.net
Karen:
Melissa,
YES!!!!!I was wondering!!!!HI!
I'm green at this!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:36:01 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
mary:
i have no idea how to bookmark. Help!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:36:00 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Lisa:
Joyce, I know there are people with both; maybe someone else has more knowledge than me on the subject of asthma and diabetes.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:34:31 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
Melissa :
Joyce, there is one family who regularly come here who's 6 year old son has asthma! It really messes up his numbers!

KAREN!!! Are you the one I've been writing to??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:34:21 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Laurie:
Joyce Ryan has asthma but, since he was dx'ed he has not had any problems with his asthma
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:33:54 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
joyce:
some of those kiddy antibiotics are awful sweet looking, are they made with a sugar base of some sort?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:33:52 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
mary:
melissa, how do you read the messages without writing one? every time i try i go back to the screen i started out on
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:33:20 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
ron:
Phenergan OverDose.... Bookmark this.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:33:18 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Brenda F.:
Phenergan is an antihistamine commonly used for motion sickness, allergies,nausea,and given before or after an analgesic, its good stuff.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:33:16 (EST) - and-002-27.iquest.net
joyce:
thanks Lisa...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:33:04 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Lisa:
Do you think it is the antibiotics or the infection causing the increased bg's.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:32:55 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
joyce:
Lisa, the reason I ask, is our daughter does not have diabetes but she has some of the antibpdies to insulin, pancreas (we know because she is the DPT study) and .. you know... the prepared parent.. laugh.. is wondering if there will be additional things to watch for should she develop diabetes with her asthma...
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:32:22 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
mary:
we were told to use the chewables instead of the liquid antibiotics to decrease the sugar levels. uor son is 6
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:31:39 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Lisa:
Joyce, she had an inhaler but I don't know what was in it.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:31:22 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
Karen:
Thanks, Joyce.
My daughter was recently on anti
biotics for double ear infections.
BIG rise in bg!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:30:47 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Karen:
Thanks, Joyce.
My daughter was recently on anti
biotics for double ear infections.
BIG rise in bg!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:30:40 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
Melissa :
Arelene and everyone else too.... it may help to put a larger number in the box labeled "number of displayed messages". Try 20 and you should be able to keep up!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:30:34 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
ron:
Drugs
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:30:31 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
joyce:
Lisa, did she ever need to talk an oral steriod i.e. prednisone on occassion to control her asthma?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:30:20 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Nancy :
Ron, I just checked my bottle of Phenergan and there is a warning on the bottle - "May cause drowsiness or dizziness".
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:29:58 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Lisa:
We had a au pair who had diabetes and asthma. She seemed to be in pretty good control of both while she was with us.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:29:10 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
joyce:
karen, you type what you want, then hit the talk/listen button, The topic is sick days for children with diabetes..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:28:57 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
jimbo:
jimbo's jane says she heard of the suppository so maybe I'm a mushroom
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:28:42 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
mary:
anyone have high bg level with antibiotics?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:28:22 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
joyce:
I am wondering, does anyone have a diabetic child with asthma?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:28:12 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Karen:
I'm new here. What's the topic? How
does this work?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:28:10 (EST) - dial-137.ncweb.com
ron:
Tired, listless at times..
phen..
also sedates different people differently
one person may get very sedated
and another very lightly
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:27:35 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
jimbo:
yes Arlene we saw your questions about cough medicine
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:26:54 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Arlene Mishanie:
Lyn- what exactly is phenergon?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:26:44 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
ron:
no..
of course not..
but one has to be careful..
suppose a mother thinks the drowsyness
is a symptom of hypo-glycemia
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:26:29 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Paula:
that is true Ron, I noticed my son was awful tired!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:26:01 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
jimbo:
thanks Lyn I wrote the name down and will talk to our pharmacy about them
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:25:58 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Melissa :
Hi Brenda! Welcome!

Arlene we can see you! You just need to give everyone a chance to see your question and respond!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:25:48 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
Arlene, I have answered your questions. Are you hitting the "Talk or Listen" button and then scrolling down?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:25:32 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
mary:
hello
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:25:19 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Beth :
Thanks Laurie.

Ron, is it a bad thing that it sedates??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:25:04 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Paula:
Yes it is safe for kids, my son uses them and he is 6.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:24:52 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Laurie:
Beth I would miss you!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:24:25 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
ron:
it works for some people
but it sedates, as well..

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:24:22 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Arlene Mishanie:
Thanks Lynn for the information about Delsyn cough medicine
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:24:20 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Lisa:
Melissa, Kait was 5 when the hospital dispensed the suppository so I guess its safe for
young kids.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:24:12 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
Nancy :
Hi, Tammy and Cathy if you are out there listening!!!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:23:39 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth :
Yes Arlene. Several posts give different ones.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:23:38 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Beth :
They just tend to cause some diarrhea sometimes so don't stay in long.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:22:49 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Melissa :
Ron, maybe she'll learn something! hehehehe

I thought those suppositories were for adults! They're safe for kids too? How young?

Arlene, we use the Tylenol cough medicine!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:22:46 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Lyn:
Jimbo, Jessica dehydrates quickly. When she has a problem with nausea/vomitting the phenergan stops it quickly. She is then able to keep liquids/food down.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:22:35 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Arlene Mishanie:
Hello to Beth, Nancy and Jim. Are you receiving my question about diabetic cough medicines for young children?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:22:27 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
joyce :
Hi guys, I guess we have been lucky, we have never had to deal with a "sick day", Jesse (age 13) is very healthy, that is except for having diabetes.. laugh..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:21:56 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
Judy:
Everyone - be sure to check the expiration date on the suppositories
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:21:24 (EST) - cnc059059.concentric.net
Nancy :
Beth, that was a little tricky and not well received when you are dealing with a teen. Adam was so sick that the resistance was minimal!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:21:22 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth :
Well Nancy, I would hope that if I didn't show up at least one person would miss me! :)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:21:19 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Lynne S.:
Delsym is an excellent cough suppressant for those coughs that are tickle types when lying down. It appears that it works longer so you need less and it is not terribly sugary. Does not taste offensive .
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:21:18 (EST) - dam-as14s39.erols.com
Paula:
Thankyou for your help everyone!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:21:05 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Brenda F.:
Hi, my dtr. is 6 and has been dx. a year
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:20:59 (EST) - and-002-27.iquest.net
Nancy :
Beth, I am just about to give it up, I have missed so much and I am trying to play catch up!!! Thanks a bunch, I sure needed to hear that!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:20:06 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Lisa:
Hi - first time here. We were given suppositories
at the emergency room once
to stop vomiting. I have been hoarding them since
just in case.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:20:05 (EST) - maxhb1x6.chesco.com
Melissa :
Hey Willy!!! Good to see ya sweety!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:19:19 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Beth :
Anyone's kids have trouble keeping the suppositories in though??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:18:57 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Nancy :
Paula, yes I do feel that the Phenergan is safe. When we left the hospital we were given a prescription for them, and I keep them on hand all the time.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:18:54 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Paula:
It stops the vommiting.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:18:05 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Beth :
Oh give it up Nancy. It's much more fun to be undisciplined. Besides, we miss you!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:17:55 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
jpyce:
hi melissa, is this really your spot??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:17:37 (EST) - 208.141.37.92
ron:
willy..why are you watching melissa?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:17:32 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
jimbo:
Lyn Nancy Paula what do these suppositories do for the flu
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:17:20 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Nancy :
Beth, I haven't been on the net very much lately, I am trying to be more disciplined !!! hehehehe
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:17:11 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
No Paula! I've never used that! What does it do?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:17:10 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Lyn:
Hi Beth..almost missed you there..:)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:16:30 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Paula:
Nancy..do you feel they are safe to use?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:16:21 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Lynne S.:
Hi. Couldn't resist putting my 2cents in. If your child can swallow soft gels there is a form of sudafed or other nasal decongestants which have the expectorant in them.This is the same ingredient as Robitussin DM.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:16:16 (EST) - dam-as14s39.erols.com
Lyn:
Paula, yes!! Phenergan should be a staple in any diabetic household!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:15:33 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Nancy :
Hi Paula, yes I have used the suppositories. I always have them on hand in the frig.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:15:23 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
jimbo:
never heard of it Paula maybe its not available in Canada
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:15:22 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Willy the Wisp:
Watching Melissa.... :o)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:15:21 (EST) - c106.reach.net
Arlene Mishanie:
I am getting a bit frustrated? Does anyone out there in cyberspace hear me? I would like some information on a good cough medicine for a 6 year old diabetic boy?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:15:20 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Beth :
Okay Nancy. Haven't talked with you in ages.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:14:44 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Nancy :
Hi Melissa!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:14:25 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Paula:
HI everyone. Has anyone ever used Phenergan Suppository when their child has the flu??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:14:16 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Nancy :
Hi Beth, how are you?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:13:52 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Melissa :
Hi everyone! I'm glad so many people are here already!!! For those who don't know me, I'm the mom of 5 children, ages 6 and under! My oldest, Kristina has had diabetes since she was 6 months old! She's my inspiration for this chat room and all that I've done with it!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:13:26 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
Nancy :
LJCOOLMOM1, this forum does not automatically scroll, you have to hit Talk or Listen and then scroll down.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:13:17 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Beth:
Hi Melissa, Laurie, Lyn, Jeff, Nancy and all.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:12:52 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Laurie:
sue you need to scrool the screen. Arrow on the side of screen.
Hi Beth
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:12:22 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Jeff:
no cool mom, ya gotta keep hitting that darn "Talk or Listen" button
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:11:48 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
Nancy :
Arlene, I haven't come across a sugar free cough medicine that taste very well. We also us the regular Robitussin too!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:11:47 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
LJCOOLMOM1:
does this forum automatically scroll so you can talk back and forth?

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:10:47 (EST) - www-aa7.proxy.aol.com
Beth:
Coming to listen!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:10:34 (EST) - tty37.pld.com
Jeff:
My daughter, Heather, never has ketones but is averaging 240 bs across the board for the last 6 months.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:10:28 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
Nancy :
Arlene, what we use for our son is Scot-Tussin Expectorant - clear cough formula - Sugar Free, Sodium Free and Dye Free. I fell into a great deal and the store was clearing them out so I got each bottle for $1.00 with an expiration date of 1/99 - a real bargain. It usually is anywhere from about $4.00 to $6.00. It works great!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:10:08 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
:
mary..
are you using netscape? or ie
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:50 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Laurie:
Hi Melissa
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:46 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Lyn:
Arelene, Sorbutusess Syrup, Toclonol Expectorant are two "cough" medicines, neither taste good or go down easily, but do work. Usually, we end up using Robitussin.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:45 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Jeff:
Mary. What browser are you using?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:32 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
jimbo:
Hi Arlene our doc says don't worry too much about the sugar in cough medicine but we use sugar free benylin
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:15 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Arlene Mishanie:
I am getting the hang of this everyone! My question concerns my 6 year old son. Does anyone have a good cough medicine for diabetic children that works and tastes decent????
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:11 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Jeff:
Hi melissa!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:09:00 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
mary:
need some help with this chat line folks, it's not working for me
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:08:55 (EST) - www-ak9.proxy.aol.com
Paula:
Hi everybody!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:08:45 (EST) - www-ap7.proxy.aol.com
Arlene Mishanie:
Hi everyone. I am new at this. Has the forum begun yet? My son is 6 years old and I am very interested in finding out about sick days, specifically about cough medicines that don't contain alot of sugars and work!

Does anyone have have good coung medicinesThan for diabetic children that work and that the child likes?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:08:22 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Melissa :
Hi everyone! I'm glad so many people are here already!!! For those who don't know me, I'm the mom of 5 children, ages 6 and under! My oldest, Kristina has had diabetes since she was 6 months old! She's my inspiration for this chat room and all that I've done with it!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:08:20 (EST) - 207.22.198.47
WholeNurse:
all you have to do is
click the button to see the chat go down
or
write something in the big box..
put your handle in...
and click the talk or listen button
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:08:13 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Laurie:
Sue we are here!! You do need to scroll your screen
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:07:54 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Jeff:
The gangs all here..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:07:53 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
jimbo:
Lyn yes ketones are present and Jane is frazzled trying to nurse her
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:07:41 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
LJCOOLMOM1:
is anyone there

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:07:10 (EST) - www-aj7.proxy.aol.com
Arlene Mishanie:
Hi everyone. I am new at this. Has the forum begun yet? My son is 6 years old and I am very interested in finding out about sick days, specifically about cough medicines that don't contain alot of sugars and work!

Does anyone have have good coung medicines for diabetic children that work and that the child likes?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:07:06 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
Nancy :
Hi Arlene, yes you are doing great! Can you see everyone elses postings?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:06:40 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Lyn:
Arlene, I didn't see your question...sorry, if you'll repost I certainly will try to answer..
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:06:03 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Jeff:
I can see you here Arlene
!!!
Your doing fine!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:05:59 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
:
arlene..
hi girl
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:05:49 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Nancy :
Hi Lyn, I think we are on the verge of something. He has trace ketones at this point.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:05:37 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
Lyn:
Jimbo, is she showing keytones? By the way, how's Jane?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:05:24 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Laurie:
Hi Sue and Mary glad you made it!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:05:04 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Arlene Mishanie:
Hello. It's Arlene again. Why isn't anyone answering my question? Am I doing this correctly? Someone please answer!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:04:53 (EST) - www-al9.proxy.aol.com
jimbo:
Lyn the flu is not a vomiting type flu but she hasn't eaten much, numbers high (150 to 220)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:04:46 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
wholenurse:




Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:04:40 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Jeff:
Nancy... Heather has been up and down the 200 to 450 range for 6 months!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:04:29 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
Lyn:
Hi Nancy...WOW, that's unusual for Adam!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:04:21 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Laurie:
I have been lucky Ryan and Pat have really never been sick since they were dx'ed. I am lost as to what to do for them if they did get sick
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:04:07 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Nancy :
Hi, it's nice to see everyone!!! Well, I guess I am at the right place, our son Adam has BS of 453 tonight and we are puzzled!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:03:39 (EST) - cco-fl4-12.ix.netcom.com
jimbo:
Laurie I tried to connect this afternoon and couldn't get on
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:03:07 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Lyn:
Jeff, Melissa will be here shortly, she's "IN CHARGE" :)
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:03:04 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
mary:
hi, sue are you there?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:02:48 (EST) - www-ak9.proxy.aol.com
LJCOOLMOM1:
hi all trying to figure out how to work this thing

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:02:45 (EST) - www-aj7.proxy.aol.com
Ken:
Hi
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:02:39 (EST) - blakey-asy-11.rutgers.edu
Lyn:
Jimbo, this forum was just what you needed then! Is she able to keep food down. How've the numbers been running?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:02:39 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Jeff:
Who is in charge here?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:01:58 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
Laurie:
I just tried to go there and it won't connect
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:01:15 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Jeff:
My daughter, Heather is 12 and was Dx'd in August of last year
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:01:13 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
jimbo:
Good I'm at the right spot Breanna is 15 dx at 10 and is currently sick with the flu
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:01:08 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Lyn:
Hey Laurie, I don't know if it's "down", but it sure is slow tonight!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 20:00:23 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Laurie:
Is castleweb down again?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:59:50 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Lyn:
I'll introduce myself, we have Jessica who's 7 years old, dxd at 15 months. I'm grandma.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:58:41 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Laurie:
Hi Lyn!!Jimbo!! This is the place
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:58:21 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Jeff:
Hi all. This must be the place
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:58:15 (EST) - dial202.nconnect.net
Laurie:
Hello Arlene I'm the mom of Patrick 15 dx'ed 11-96 and Ryan 12 dx'ed 1-95. The forum should be starting soon
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:57:37 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Lyn:
Hi everyone.
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:57:36 (EST) - pdial169.wisedial.wilmington.net
Arlene Mishanie:
Hi everyone. I am new at this. Has the forum begun yet? My son is 6 years old and I am very interested in finding out about sick days, specifically about cough medicines that don't contain alot of sugars and work!


Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:56:05 (EST) - www-az7.proxy.aol.com
jimbo:
hello? is this where the forum on sick days is?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:56:01 (EST) - port14.ycs.ab.ca
Laurie:
Are we early?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:53:47 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
Laurie:
Hello how you doing?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:52:33 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
wholenurse:

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:52:26 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
wholenurse:
hey everyone!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:51:34 (EST) - p22.accesscom.net
Laurie:
Anyone here??
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:50:45 (EST) - mast29.ainop.com
maggie:
hello, is anyone here?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:47:43 (EST) - one-pm48.norwich.net
mary:
hello, is anyone there?
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 19:40:03 (EST) - www-az6.proxy.aol.com
ron..:

Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 18:56:54 (EST) - p201.accesscom.net
Melissa :
EXCELLENT!!!!! Thank you sooo much Ron!!!
Thursday, February 20, 1997 at 18:51:24 (EST) - 207.22.198.59



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