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Glucose Monitors~~

I think this had to be the forum with the most information! We got together on October 3, 1997 to discuss different meters! There are so many choices of glucose monitors out there, that it was hard to keep up with which one everyone was talking about! We talked about Accuechecks, One Touches, Glucometers, and even the latest hope... the non-invasive meters! Thank you everyone who provided evaluations of the meters you have used and especially thanks to Mark, who is 15, who provided all the information on the non-invasive meters! If you are looking for a meter, read this forum to get an idea of what people think of the one you are considering! I'd also like to suggest that you donate your old meter(s) to the Russian Collection we are doing! Please look at Melissa's Announcement to get all the details!

Links for Forum
LifeScan One TouchÆ Products | Blood Glucose Meters | Accu-Chek Meters | Checkmate Plus | Glucometer Encore | Glucometer Elite | Integ's Lifeguide | The Futrex Dream Beam, only a dream? | Logging Without Lancets? Semi-Invasive Technology | The SpectRx Personal Glucose Monitoring System | Non-invasive Meters | GlucoWatch | Total Patient Supply | LifeScan IN TOUCHÆ Diabetes Management Software | children with DIABETES - Computerizing Your Meter | Diabetes UK - Meters


Melissa (POM) :
Nite Debby!! It'll be posted in the archives tomorrow!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:27:56 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Debby:
Thanks for the forum. This is a great help. Nite all.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:27:02 (EDT) - sdn-ts-007azphoep07.dialsprint.net
Melissa (POM) :
Yea, they all have some kind of problem but it seems to be the next advancement for diabetes!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:25:31 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Melissa (POM) :
I want to thank ALL who came tonight!! This has been such an informative forum! I'll stay for another 1/2 hour to chat and then I have to get to bed!!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:24:18 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Debby:
I feel as if I'm searching for the Holy Grail. That elusive noninvasive moniter!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:23:47 (EDT) - sdn-ts-007azphoep07.dialsprint.net
Melissa (POM) :
I don't think I've heard about that one Debby!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:21:54 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Melissa (POM) :
HEY SANDRA!!!! Wow! Are we FINALLY here at the same time??? hehehehehehehe
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:19:46 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Debby:
Thanks Melissa. It's been very informative tonight. I heard a rumor that Vanderbilt Hospital in Nashville is also working on a noninvasive moniter. Does anyone know about that?
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:19:11 (EDT) - sdn-ts-007azphoep07.dialsprint.net
Melissa (POM) :
I just looked at Integ's FAQ section and here's one of the questions...

When will LifeGuide be available for use by the public? We expect to make the system
available in 1998. Availability is subject to FDA review of the product's performance and
accompanying literature.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:17:25 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Sandra :
Hi Melissa
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:14:37 (EDT) - hd38-011.hil.compuserve.com
Denise F:
Well, this has been very informative tonight! It makes me want to go out and see if I can find some of the new ones I've seen tonight. Wouldn't it be great if there was such a thing as "try before you buy" when it came to meters! Goodnight all.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:13:09 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Melissa (POM) :
And this one from Beth about the program for the One Touch...

We use the One Touch Profile with the InTouch software. It's really nice
to be able to download all of that and have the color graphs but we did
find one hitch -- if you have to take your sugar more than once in the time
slots given it won't list them all on the report. Figures them in on the
averages report but doesn't list them -- seems like it only lists the last
one in the time slot if I remember correctly. Can be a little confusing if
that happens.

Beth

Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:12:48 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Debby:
Does anybody know if or when they will putting the Life Guide on the market?
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:12:25 (EDT) - sdn-ts-007azphoep07.dialsprint.net
Bruce:
I tried it today. I think it would be neat and it uses similiar capilary strip to the Elite
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:12:16 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Melissa (POM) :
This is a letter I got from Lyn tonight about one of the programs you can use....

Melissa,

Donna, from Cweb...had posted this in the message board the other day..I
downloaded and installed this program..it's really a good one..and very
simple to use..any of the folks at the forum tonight that don't have a
download capability with their meter, may want to ck it out...

Lyn


Hi, BgTracker97 is ready and available for download. Please
note that the program will only run under Windows 95...it
does not download readings from meters...making it ideal for
someone who uses more than one meter. I beta tested this
program for four months and found it useful for tracking
Bob's glucose and insulin amounts (It lets you track 1/2
units of insulin for the wee ones! Something that I didn't
find in other programs) It also prints out a copy of tests
results, averages daily, weekly or monthly readings. The
program has many other features...Best of all...it is
FREE!!!! http://members.aol.com/bgtracker/BgTrack/Index.html
BTW-Jim is a fellow diabetic and would appreciate some positive feed
back. Enjoy!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:11:54 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Debbie:
Well, it's after midnight, so I must say Goodnight!! Thanks Melissa for another wonderful forum.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:11:48 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Sandra :
Hi Melissa
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:11:41 (EDT) - hd6-195.hil.compuserve.com
Melissa (POM) :
Neat! It loads and ejects them? Wow! Kristina was up earlier and saw the pictures Mark posted and she thought it looked really neat! She wants one!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:10:36 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Bruce:
Thanks for the pic Mark.
(do I feel silly)
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:10:11 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Melissa (POM) :
Ohhhhhhh is DEX and Espirit the same?? Well what do you know! That one is the new one... it's not in the states yet though!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:09:12 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Bruce:
OOOPS sorry Mark! They call it a DEX here
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:08:07 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Mark from Aus:
Yea, IT IS THE ESPRIT!!!!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:07:43 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Bruce:
Sorry I don't have a scanner or I would post a pic. It is the 10 strip cartridge that is kind of neat. Loads and ejects strips without ever touching them (except to load the cartridge)
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:07:13 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Mark from Aus:

This is the esprit!!
I've GOT TO GO NOW!!!! LOL!!!!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:06:49 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Melissa (POM) :
LOL We have TONS of fun around here in the morning!

Ok, what about computer programs to go with these meters?? I found 2 good sites to learn about that today.. they are... LifeScan IN TOUCHÆ Diabetes Management Software and children with DIABETES - Computerizing Your Meter
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:06:36 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Marcia:
Thanks for the forum and the info..Goodnight all......
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:06:23 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Mark from Aus:
Yea, the esprit is from Bayer, so I assume they are the same!!

BYE!!
~~~~~~~~~~POOF~~~~~~~~~~

Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:05:31 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Bruce:
Not the Esprit, this was just released yesterday. It is round, well sort of ... looks kind of like a telecommunicator
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:05:21 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Mark from Aus:
Yea, I've REALLY gotta run now!!! I am trying to get changed into my work uniform, while typing with one hand!!!!! Eek It's not working!!!! See Ya'll
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:04:30 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Marcia:
Is the Esprit that Mark talked about and the Bayer Glucometer DEX the same?
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:04:01 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Melissa (POM) :
Hey Mark... EXCELLENT JOB!!!! Thank you sooo much! Have a great day! LOL

Christine, I'll be here in the morning till about 10am my time! Then I'll be back at naptime if you'd like to have a private chat!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:03:38 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Christine:
thanks guys! have to run, Melissa, email me!!! TAKE CARE ALL.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:03:25 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Mark from Aus:
Bruce, that is the Bayer, Glucometer Esprit!!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:03:08 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Bruce:
You can download to a PC, it has 100 memories, does averages for breakfast, lunch, dinner and bedtime BG's
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:03:02 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Mark from Aus:
hehehehehe
I am allways online around 7-10am EDT!!! Just ask melissa!!!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:02:34 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Bruce:
The DEX is very small and has a ten test cartridge instead of loading individual strips.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:01:49 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Christine:
neat machine!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:01:39 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Melissa (POM) :
Hi Bruce! Glad you finally made it! :-) Do tell about the DEX! I've never heard of it!
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:01:29 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Rae:
Thanks, Melissa!
It's getting late. Good night all.
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:01:10 (EDT) - 206.242.190.71
Mark from Aus:
Yea, bayer has a page at www.bayerdiag.com
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:00:29 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Bruce:
They have a web page but it wasn't there when I looked
Friday, October 03, 1997 at 00:00:29 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Mark from Aus:
pw, It is scholl holidays at the moment!!!
I have to run now!!! Gotta get to work!! We are doing stocktake at the moment, so I will be counting things all day!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:59:44 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Theresa:
pw is okay to steal the grey Ribion for my webpage?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:59:28 (EDT) - 1cust118.max49.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Christine:
M, I have to put the baby back to bed, will you be around tomorrow, ifso what time might be good?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:58:46 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
pw:
Bruce does Bayer have a webpage where we can have a looksee
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:58:36 (EDT) - ts001d24.spr-ma.concentric.net
Rose:
I'm sorry I couldn't make it earlier, was there a good crowd?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:58:24 (EDT) - dial98.radiks.net
Melissa (POM) :
Wow Mark.. I was just reading in the September issue of Diabetes Forecast about Interstitial Fluid! They say it's very reliable! I didn't have a chance to look at the Diabetes Forecast site though to see if that article was available online though!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:57:49 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Bruce:
Just stopped by .. has anyone seen the new Glucometer DEX? I just saw one today - the latest release from Bayer
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:57:43 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
pw:
Mark my favorite Aussie how are things there today and why arent' you in school?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:57:43 (EDT) - ts001d24.spr-ma.concentric.net
Mark from Aus:
Ummm... hang on a sec, I will just find out the size!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:56:53 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
pw:
Melissa can I borrow your gray ribbon for my page??
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:56:42 (EDT) - ts001d24.spr-ma.concentric.net
Rickcrna:
hello?

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:56:24 (EDT) - slc321.modem.xmission.com
Christine:
the Life Guide looks really big, is it?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:55:51 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Marcia:
Goodnight Judith..I need to talk to you..catch you in the chat..
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:55:20 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Mark from Aus:
A company called Integ, makes it. Just click on the link beside the message box!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:54:47 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Theresa:
pw is okay to steal the grey Ribion for my webpage?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:54:35 (EDT) - 1cust118.max49.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Rose:
Hello!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:54:35 (EDT) - dial98.radiks.net
Marcia:
Mark, is this a "real" machine or just in the developmental stage? Who makes it?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:54:04 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Bruce:
Hi ....
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:53:26 (EDT) - block-a-14.western.wave.ca
Mark from Aus:
Oky, now lets do it step by step!!! hehehe

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:53:24 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Theresa:
I got booted.I had reboot the whole system.Mark did I miss anything ?You know how I hate the vampire thing.I want one those bloodless things.*s*
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:53:03 (EDT) - 1cust118.max49.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Christine:
2 teeth, on the bottom coming in, sorry, I know that is not related to the forum....
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:52:25 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Judith:
Glad I got here for a little while, but I'm going to have to go - about midnight here. Looking forward to reading the whole thing. Thanks, Melissa! Goodnight, all.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:52:22 (EDT) - 206.112.27.140
Mark from Aus:
And last of all we have the 'Life Guide' from Integ.

This is one of my favorites!!!
It works by using a TINY skin puncture, that you cant feel!!! It then sucks out some 'Interstitial Fluid' which is a fluid just underneath the skin.
It measures the ISF for the amount of glucose and that is VERY similar to the amount of blood glucose!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:51:51 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Rae:
We have checked Bg at same time as clinic lab and the most the girls meters have ever been off was 12.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:51:41 (EDT) - 206.242.190.71
Mark from Aus:
Yep, I've got the integ one to do!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:51:21 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
pw:
Still at it??

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:50:53 (EDT) - ts001d24.spr-ma.concentric.net
Melissa (POM) :
Mark, you have done such a wonderful job on these non-invasive meters... is there one more?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:50:35 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Denise F:
Judith, that's interesting that the meters weren't too far off. I was wondering if the Elite was very accurate. One night I tested my daughter with it, and had trouble getting the blood on the strip in the semi-dark. The meter said she was 20, but didn't give me an error message. I rechecked, and it said 144. Then I checked with the Advantage, and it said 106. Maybe I should call the company to see if they'd send a replacement.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:50:29 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Christine:
Christopher says HI Melissa!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:49:27 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Mark from Aus:
Okay for more info on the Cygnus Glucowatch, go to HERE!!
or HERE!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:49:20 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
pw:
Still at it??

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:48:40 (EDT) - ts001d24.spr-ma.concentric.net
Judith:
The old Exactechs didn't have a very good reputation for accuracy. I think they're better since they became Medisense. I did some informal comparisons at camp this summer - tested each kid on 3 machines at once several times. I found the Profile, Advantage, and Elite to be fairly close to one another in results. The Precision was way off when the weather was very hot, but in line with the others at lower temps.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:47:13 (EDT) - 206.112.27.140
Christine:
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Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:46:36 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Laurie R.:
Our endo LOVES the graphs and statistical summaries we get from our Profile and the IN TOUCH software. It gives us at home a quick visual picture of how we've been doing lately by graphing out the averages and individual readings. Now if we can just find a way to get all the numbers into the right reading spans.......
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:46:24 (EDT) - ts19-lake.pacific.net
Melissa (POM) :
Did I show the Profile earlier? Here it is...


Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:45:35 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Marcia:
Does anyone have a guess as to when the glucowatch..or anything similar will actually be on the market? We have been hearing about this for almost 10 years ans so far nothing..I am beginning to think there will be a cure before we get non-invasive monitoring..(and I'm not holding my breath for "the cure" any longer either)
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:45:28 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Melissa (POM) :
Oh shoot! Sorry that came out kinda hard to read! I'll clean it up when I put it in the archives!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:42:56 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Christine:
the profile will do lots with insulin and food graphs, you or the doc can down load the readings. things like that.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:42:09 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Laurie R.:
we like our Profile...It differes from the One Touch II in that it has more specific ways to maintain a memory and log. You can add in the Profile: insulin dosages, category of test (meal, exercise, special event, etc) and you can't do that with the One Touch II.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:41:18 (EDT) - ts19-lake.pacific.net
Melissa (POM) :
Ok, I found THIS WEBPAGE at diabetesnet.com to be especially informative about all the latest non- and semi-invasive meters!!

And now, this wonderful letter I got about them all....


I'm not sure if I can make it Tuesday night or not but here is the scoop (from the rumor mill) on the non-invasives you have mentioned. The dream beam is using technology that according to many experts in the field is based upon flawed underlying data. This approach will likely not work according to them. They were prohibited from going forward with their public offering and are back to the drawing board. The Glucowatch is my personal favorite. It seems to have the best chance and I actually think that Cygnus would not be a half bad OTC investment if you have a high-risk portion of your portfolio. Cygnus is a real company that already makes real products and their partnership with B-D is very promising. Integ and SpectRx are using a similar approach but they don't have the same advantages. Neither is near as good as Cygnus's and they don't have the advantage of continuous monitoring. My understanding is that Cygnus (glucowatch) is furthest ahead in trials and seems to "get it" in terms of customer needs (continuous monitoring). Cygnus seems to be offering a far superior product and they have the attorneys/infrastructure to get it through the FDA. If you look at Integ's public offering and their last six months balance sheet, you will see what I mean about where the money seems to be going. Someone at Integ seems to be making a tidy sum, but their R&D seems to have mssed the point entirely.

The only problem with the Glucowatch is that they have encountered some need to rotate wrists/sites because of irritation. My questions are: Does this methodology work well in the dark? Would the skin irritation problem be lessened by wearing it only at night? I don't know about you, but I would certainly think that having it on at night would be wonderful even if you had to let your wrists rest during the day or go back to another method during the day. This is the problem with the other methods; you still have to get up in the middle of the night to test. And even though they might hurt less, they haven't really improved the hassle of testing at all. I would think that even if they do come out sooner than Glucowatch, once the Glucowatch comes out (or something similar) they might become obsolete.

Anyhow, feel free to post this if I can't make it.

Take Care,
Sonia Cooper- sonia08@ibm.net
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:41:06 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Rae:
We have been using the Medisense since 1990. We have had a problem only twice and both times the company had a replacement at my front door the next morning at no charge.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:40:29 (EDT) - 206.242.190.71
Marcia:
Judith, Mark showed us something earlier that sounds like that but I didn't know it was from Bayer.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:39:08 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Debbie:
Our endo mentioned them. She said it will have a built in modem so you can fax the numbers to the doctor over the phone or computer.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:38:59 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Marcia:
Judith, Mark showed us something earlier that sounds like that but I didn't know it was from Bayer.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:38:56 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Mark from Aus:
Judith, that new glucometer is called the esprit. We were discussing it earlier!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:38:34 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Christine:
Yes, You are right Melissa, I have been under the whether with the cold that everyone else in the family had and are getting over finally.
Sammy really likes the Advantage accu-check for school. The freebee all the kids got from diabetes camp.. Haven't used it enough to have a opinion on it yet, but if the kids like it and will use it at school that is all that counts!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:38:19 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Denise F:
How does the One Touch II differ from the Profile? We have used the Basic, Profile, Accucheck Advantage, and Elite. Shannon likes the Elite best because it doesn't take much blood, but I like the Accucheck best. I do think I'd like to check out some of the others we've heard about tonight, though!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:37:59 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Rae:
Hi to all!
We have used the Ames Glucometer, Accuchek 2, Accuchek Easy and now use the Medisense Pen and Card. The memory holds 20 readings and there is no cleaning of parts involved. Also they are small, easily carried and used. Strips are foil covered so they do not take up much space.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:37:46 (EDT) - 206.242.190.71
Mark from Aus:

Oops try again!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:37:20 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Judith:
Have you heard about the new Glucometer model, due out about January? It will use a ten-test cartridge, rather than strips. Has lots (? amt) of memory, and graphs right on the machine. They plan to offer them free at some point, according to the Bayer rep.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:37:10 (EDT) - 206.112.27.140
Melissa (POM) :
oh that's right... someone asked me about the phone number for lifescan.... in the United States it's 1-800-227-8862 and in Canada it's 1-800-663-5521
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:36:34 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Okay, this is the most promising of all the non invasive meters!!!

Okay, this one works by 'leeching' the glucose out of the pores in the skin by using electroosmosis, or something like that!!!
This is still VERY experimental!!! They are still testing, how long it can be used in the same position etc.
There is also health concerns with this meter, because viruses and bacteria can breed in the pad used to collect and measure the glucose. The viruses are then, easily transmited to the body, through the open pores!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:36:33 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Christine:
LifeScan is a great company. I stay with their machines because when ever I have a problem with a machine they will send me out a new one right away!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:34:31 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Melissa (POM) :
Christine, I'm so glad you could come! It's been so long since we've chatted! :-) I need to just call you on the phone! LOL
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:34:25 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Laurie R.:
I like our Profile. When we first started using it, we just ignored a lot of the features, and then added them in as we learned what we were doing.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:33:37 (EDT) - ts19-lake.pacific.net
Marcia:
Our profile is still "lost" so are using the One Touch II and an advantage at sxhool. Keep thinking the profile will show up at a friends house under a bed or something.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:33:37 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Melissa (POM) :
I have a letter that talks about the Dream Beam!! I'll post it after Mark does the Glucowatch cause it talks about that too!!

Ron, this is Judith who ALWAYS has a hard time getting in here, even after I passed on the info you gave me about it!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:33:25 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Okay, hang on I will just 'gather my info' on gluco watch!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:32:19 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Judith:
I agree about the Profile, but feel it's too complicated for the newly dx'd. I think the One Touch II would be a good "beginner" machine.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:31:55 (EDT) - 206.112.27.140
Marcia:
"fraud"..I guess you answered that. What about the "glucowatch" another pipe dream?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:31:12 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Melissa (POM) :
Hey Don! Have a great night! Thanks alot Ron for putting his pic on VN! That's wonderful!! Hey Judith! I posted your letter first thing! LOL You'll have to read it in the archives! The room has already crashed once and I had to reload it real fast!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:31:06 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Well, Ummm, It is hard to say!!! Because it is still not certain weather it works or not!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:30:58 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Christine:
Will have to read the back posts tomorrow!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:30:49 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Marcia:
How close is the Dream Beam to being on the market?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:29:36 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Don:
Mark...thanks...I bookmarked it...
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:29:14 (EDT) - m53uin23.bcl.net
Mark from Aus:
There has been some controversy over this meter!!!
"The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has charged Futrex with fraud, claiming that the Dream
Beam never worked."
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:29:09 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
ron:
judith
did you have a hard time connecting?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:29:05 (EDT) - max072.centralva.net
Lori:
I have found the Profile one touch to be a wonderful machine
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:29:03 (EDT) - 208.8.212.79
Judith:
Whew! I made it into here - but it's still taking me a LONG time, so don't know how long I'll be able to stay. Looks like lots of good info. I hope to read it all when it's archived.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:28:11 (EDT) - 206.112.27.140
Lori:
I have found the Profile one touch to be a wonderful machine
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:28:04 (EDT) - 208.8.212.79
Christine:
Hello All,Sorry I am late! Hope all is going well..
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:27:50 (EDT) - ppp-206-170-25-31.sntc01.pacbell.net
Lori:
I have found the Profile one touch to be a wonderful machine
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:27:43 (EDT) - 208.8.212.79
Don:
goodnight Lyn...talk to you tomorrow I hope...gone
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:27:11 (EDT) - m53uin23.bcl.net
Mark from Aus:
Next, 'The Dream Beam'!!!

This meter is produced by the company "Futrex" and their site can be found HERE!!!
This one works by passing Near infared light through a finger and the light is then analyzed.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:27:05 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
ron:
don, look for your picture in
http://virtualnurse.com/memberimages/
and i'm going to shrink up the K
for you ..loads more promptly that way.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:26:59 (EDT) - max072.centralva.net
Don:
Sounds interesting...but must go for now..bye all
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:26:21 (EDT) - m53uin23.bcl.net
Lyn:
Thanks for all the info you've all gathered, I've sure learned alot about many different machines. I'm headed to bed. Goodnight.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:26:00 (EDT) - pdial47.wisedial.wilmington.net
Mark from Aus:
Theresa, I'm not sure, but that is not the only one available!!!
Should I move on to the next one now??
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:25:56 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Melissa (POM) :
LOL Guess I should let you do the quoting Mark! LOL How about the next one....
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:25:36 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Lori:
hello
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:25:22 (EDT) - 208.8.212.79
Theresa from Savannah::
That is something when will it be avaible in the us.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:24:17 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
And I also found this...

Pittsburgh, PA - October 25, 1996 - Biocontrol Technology, Inc. (NASDAQ:BICO)
announced today that its resubmitted 510(k) notification for the Diasensor 1000TM
noninvasive glucose sensor for diabetics has been accepted by the Food and Drug
Administration (FDA).

The Company further stated that a meeting between the FDA and Biocontrol concerning this
510(k) has already been set for early November.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:24:15 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Yea, it is not terribly accurate, because it can get confused if the person has taken any paracetamol, asprin, alchohol etc.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:24:00 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Lyn:
LOL..I'm wondering what kind of "mega" battery you'd have to use for backup!! yikes!
Ron, it's going well now.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:23:38 (EDT) - pdial47.wisedial.wilmington.net
Don:


Good Evening ...my server was tied up ringing in busy for two hours tonight...
hope you have a good meeting...need to run..got to pick Patricia up from work...
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:23:35 (EDT) - m53uin23.bcl.net
Melissa (POM) :
Yes Marcia, this is what was said at Castleweb about it...

On February 26, 1996, the FDA review panel delayed making a final recommendation
until the company presents data on the production model.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:22:52 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Marcia:
It would fit better in my fanny pack than my budget!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:22:38 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Mark from Aus:
It just says here "on February 26, 1996, the FDA review panel delayed making a final reccomendation until the company presents data on the production model"
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:22:30 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
ron:
hey guys..how's the chat going?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:22:13 (EDT) - max072.centralva.net
Debbie:
I recall hearing it had trouble reading through darker skin tones.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:21:49 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Denise F:
So Mark, are you saying the Diasensor won't fit in a fanny pack? LOL
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:20:39 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Marcia:
sorry, diasensor I meant
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:19:59 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Mark from Aus:
But it is too fiddly!!! and it is HUGE!!!
11 x 18.5 x 11 inches!!
and it weighs 14 pounds!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:19:36 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Marcia:
Didn't the diascan fail to pass the US FDA regulations? Have they reapplied?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:19:19 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Lyn:
Mark, not what you could call "compact"!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:19:05 (EDT) - pdial47.wisedial.wilmington.net
Melissa (POM) :
Wow! 2 years worth of tests! That's incredible!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:17:56 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Theresa from Savannah::
Denise sorry i misunderstood.Keeping track is a pain.But so inportant as the greast tool an endo has for insulin ajustment.I found this site today .Diabetes Health Mangement softwear.Does evrything on your Pc even Meal planing.That one I like .The site is www.healthviewdiabetes.com .The cost is much less tahn atrip the endo.*LOL* You can also send blood sugar online to th endo.I hate phoneing them in.I too have a promble giveing out info,I no longer do.Have a toll free number 1-800-678-9691.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:16:49 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Marcia:
The only problem I ever had with my mail order company was the time they decided to send 27 gauge needles ("that's what your insurance company authorizes") instead of the B-D ultra fines. The guy actually told me "some kids like bigger needles"!! I sent a letter of complaint to the main office and got my money back.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:14:57 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Mark from Aus:
Okay, first of all I would like to introduce you to 'The Diasensor 1000'!!
This was the worlds FIRST EVER non-invasive blood glucose meter!!
Well basically, you stick your arm over the sensor, Infared light then passes through the skin into the blood, the light is then reflected back to the sensor where it is analyzed, converted into a bg level and displayed on the screen!!
You can buy one of these in the UK or Germany for £5000!!!
A 4 to 5 hour calibration process is required for each patient, and this has to be done in a special center, not in the home.
Well, basically this is a bulky machine that requires a LOT of maintenance!! But it holds 2 years worth of tests in the memory!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:14:10 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Brenda H.:
Melissa, before I go to bed, I saw you mention the Exactech. We used to use one, but switched to the Medisense Precision QID, the Exactech upgrade (more or less). Foil strips are easier to open. We might have a Prestige somewhere, but don't use it. TTFN
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:13:55 (EDT) - www2.castleweb.com
Mark from Aus:
Sure Robynn I will e-mail you all the info I can find!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:13:25 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Melissa (POM) :
I'm sorry Robynn! it's working great for me!!

Ok, before everyone poops out, lets have those non-invasive meters Mark, one at a time! LOL
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:13:19 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Melissa (POM) :
Denise, I have never had a problems with any mail in order company as far as insurance info and social security numbers! I had one great one in Fort Worth who would automatically send the supplies I needed every month and just bill me! With Caremark now, I have to be sure to order AND pay well ahead of when I run out of stuff!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:12:17 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Robynn:
Mark, could you email me with any information or views on the Esprit - medalero@senet.com.au
Many thanks
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:11:58 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Robynn:
Mark - we are in Adelaide, SA
I think I will have to view the archives later - I'm having quite a lot of problems with your room today, Melissa
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:10:57 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Melissa (POM) :
Did anyone mention they used the Prestige?


Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:09:54 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Theresa from Savannah::
I also like the idea of a built in lancet.Would be great for backpacking.Is it light enough to carry in a pack?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:09:23 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Denise F:
Theresa--honesty about blood sugar readings isn't a problem--at least not so far! The main reason I want the time and date on the meter is because we are not very consistent about writing down the readings each time. So when I have to "back track," it's not always easy to figure out when the reading was taken.
Another question for those of you who order supplies by mail: Does it bother you to give out your insurance information and social security numbers? I have been reluctant to order from these companies for that reason.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:09:04 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Melissa (POM) :
I just realized that I didn't find anything on Exactech! We use the Exactech pen as a backup! It's really handy but it has no memory and that's a pain! I've come to depend on One Touch 11's memory! So when we have to use the Exactec, I have to be extra careful to get the number before it shuts off!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:07:45 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Ummm.... I dont think it is available in America yet.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:07:43 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Theresa from Savannah::
Mark.Where can you get the metter with 100 test option?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:06:34 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
Goodnight Juanita! I have lots of websites for you to get more info on each meter, if you'd like! Most are listed here in my links but I have a few more too in my bookmarks!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:05:40 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
I think the checkmate plus is the same as the betachek meridian in Australia!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:04:11 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Denise F:
I like the sound of the Checkmate. How nice that it comes with a built-in lancing device.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:04:05 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Melissa (POM) :
I got a letter from a man who represents Diabetic Supplies By Mail... I found his site online... he says....

Relative to your meeting on Glucose Meters, I have a strong opinion on
meter types. Most meters are reflectometers, determining your reading based
on the color change of the test strip. They are not able to control their
batches of strips that well, and that is why there are codes associated
with these types of meters. The most popular of this type would be the
ONE-TOUCH meters by LIFESCAN.

A much better meter is the new RSG by Exactech. It works on sensing current
flow through the material deposited on the test strip. There is a very
deterministic relationship between the current flow and the amount of
Glucose in your blood. They DO NOT HAVE ANY CODES to enter. This is a major
reason I am sending these to the older diabetics on Medicare. Simplicity of
use!!

You can find his website at Diabetes Supplies By Mail - CLICK HERE
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:03:51 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Theresa from Savannah::
Denise :You must nipe that in the bud.Lieing about blood sugar can only lead to serious promble .I think you need a metter has stores the blood sugar reading.If don't mind me saying.I have always felt that blood sugar reading are not a grade of how well you manage your Diabetes.It just shows the level of your blood sugar in your body not a grade on how well you did that day with the many aspects of the battle.Has been to a dibetic clinic for Blood sugar metters.I found most helpful .Nicholas I used to go together.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:03:31 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Juanita:
Wow, this is overwhelming. I had no idea there were so many choices, and I thought the ones I already knew about were confusihg. Sorry, but it's overload time and I've got to hit the sack. Thanks for the time & infor. I'll check out the rest of the forum inthe archives tomorrow.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:02:05 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Mark from Aus:
Yea, I use the medisense 2 card model!!

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 23:01:04 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Mark from Aus:
Robyn, I live in a town called Mudgee in NSW!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:59:49 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Robynn:
Exactec and MediSense II is made by the same people that make the Precision QID
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:59:49 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Melissa (POM) :
Linda told me about the Checkmate Plus...

I bought my first Chekmate Plus over 18 months ago. After it was stolen
in January, I replaced it. I didn't think they could improve it but they
did.

The Checkmate Plus caught my eye because of the design, I had been using
a meter which required a separate lancing device. Checkmate plus has the
lancing device built in. I also like the memory. You can include up to
250 tests and insulin injections and after 25 tests you get an average.
The buttons fro this info are a little hard to maneuver, but they do give
you a instruction book and a little instruction card you can take with
you. it is easy to load and you don't have to calibrate each box of
strips! it gives you commands in the window that tell you what you need
to do and what you are doing wrong. This monitor is small enough that
you can check your glucose anywhere and not be real obvious.

I think Kids could operate the Checkmate pretty easy. The fact that it
is all in one is a plus in the fact that you don't lose the lancing
device. It doesn't take a lot of blood and it has a "bowl design" in the
strip so you can get the blood to stay easier. And if you don't use
enough blood, it tells you.

Checkmate Plus does have two bottles of control solution that you can use
if you are concerned about your strips. One for high 7 one for low.

I am not sure of the price of Checkmate Plus because both times I was
lucky enough to find a deal. The first time I bought it I got the meter
Free with 200 strips and the second time it was $10 with 200 strips. The
strips are really cheap. I mail order mine for less than $40 for 100
strips.

The improvement I spoke of earlier was the case. My first Checkmate came
in a hard plastic formed case, It protected the meter good but I worried
that a bad enough lick could damage the case. My second one came in a
padded leather like case, that was actually smaller. There is still a
place to carry a few extra strips and lancets.

I think the Checkmate Plus is probably as painless as you can get with a
lancet. I really like mine.


isumpin@juno.com (Linda F Mason)
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:59:19 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:

Oops I think that is big!!!
Well, the meter 'unfolds' and that is where you put the disk of strips!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:58:52 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Robynn:
Mark, curiosity makes me ask - where in Aust are you?
Also is the computer programme readily available for the Esprit?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:58:28 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Beth:
Looks interesting Melissa.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:58:22 (EDT) - usr-tty151.pld.com
Mary3:
How do I contact One Touch? Our school nurse had said she heard that the co. would send one free to school. Jason takes his to and from school.There are 2 other D kids at his school.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:58:19 (EDT) - cs2501-2-11.hgl.ny.frontiernet.net
Juanita:
I'm not familiar with the exactech or medisence (?)II. And what was the one you showed Melissa?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:57:40 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
Hey Daryl... drive safe!! Thanks so much for your help tonight! What a lifesaver you are! :-)
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:57:32 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Robynn:
I've never heard of the Checkmate Plus - obviously not available here
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:57:15 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Melissa (POM) :
Tell about the Espirit Mark!! That looks really neat and I've seen you describe it before!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:56:57 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Theresa from Savannah::
Thanks Mark.I'm very interested.There is a new cream called dermo X .For anyone suffers from finger tip pain.I find it a great help.As testing five times a day is hard on the fingers.I think would be great tool for a small child wholearning to use a metter and is afraid of the finger lancet.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:56:22 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Mark from Aus:
Well, they LOVE it!!! It stores 10 strips in a 'disk', it has a huge memory, and the readings can be downloaded to the computer!! Yea, It puts a time and date stamp on each reading in the memory.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:56:21 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Juanita:
I'd like to hear some about the less invasive monitors.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:56:03 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Robynn:
We use both an Exactech machine for school and the Medisense II at home - we have had no problems with either machine
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:55:55 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Melissa (POM) :
This is the Checkmate Plus... is anyone using this one?


Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:55:41 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Denise F:
Hi all. I'm joining you a little late, but thought I'd add my 2 cents' worth. We recently purchased the Elite, and I like the fact that it uses so little blood and works pretty fast, but I wish it had the time and date on it! Also, it is inconvenient when I want to check the memory, since you have to use a special "check" strip to access the memory.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:54:12 (EDT) - ww-tp02.proxy.aol.com
Robynn:
Mark, what does the person using the Esprit think of it - we are beginning to look for an additional machine, in particular one that gives a reading of time and date of test - we have one non-compliant daughter who tends to 'lie' at times about readings
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:53:40 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Melissa (POM) :
Juanita, our school nurse called Lifescan and told them about Kristina carrying her meter to and from school everyday! They sent the school a One Touch 11 FREE the next day!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:53:04 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Yea, theresa, I am reviewing the non/ semi-invasive meters. Start now Melissa??
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:52:19 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Mark from Aus:
I have a bit of info, and I know someone who uses it, but there is NOTHING about it on the internet!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:51:18 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Beth:
Well that was odd.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:51:12 (EDT) - usr-tty151.pld.com
Juanita:
We've been told about the Esprit, but it's not around here yet.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:50:54 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Dr.DAD:
Well Ya'll have a great forum and I hope all of you continue to support Melissa and all her efforts here. I need to go and start my 2 hour journey home from work. Good Night all ...zzzZZZ *poof*
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:50:50 (EDT) - dal-tx2-53.ix.netcom.com
Theresa from Savannah::
i saw the glocometer Elite at the last diebtic clinic I went to.I was inpressed when i tryed it.I haven't seen the other model.I would like to know about Semi- Invasive meters.after 36 of testing about time.Does anyone have one?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:50:50 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
Here's a letter I got about the Accucheck meters....

Eric has had diabetes for less than 2 years, but I will share our
monitor experience. We started out with the Accuchek Easy. I really
liked the memory and the averaging capabilities it had. However, it had
a removable strip guide that had to be cleaned. It seemed to require
cleaning more and more often, and finally the first went out
completely.
The company replaced it and the second one did ok for a while, but
started doing the same thing. When our mail order pharmacy offered an
even exchange program for the Accuchek Advantage, I called them. We
made an even exchange, and they even exchanged the unopened strips that
I had purchased for the "Easy". Eric was already familiar with the
Advantage, as our schools had purchased them and he was using one
already at school. It seems to require less blood than the Easy, and
since the blood never actually comes in contact with the machine, no
cleaning is required. I do, however, miss the averaging feature of the
"Easy" machine. The Advantage has a clock and date and adequate memory,
but does not average as the Easy machine did. (The Accuchek Easy kept a
14 day average, which I found kept us in a groove, and helped Eric have
better control, trying to deep a good average.)

Price has never been a problem, since insurance covered the first
machine (in the hospital), and we exchanged for the new machine.


Betsy Smith - bdsmith@pen.k12.va.us

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:50:14 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Robynn:
Mark, do you know anything much about it
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:50:00 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Juanita:
How do you keep up with the readings if you use so many different meters? I'mhaving trouble with just the school & home (we still carry the same memter everywhere> Sounds like I need to get more organized.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:49:47 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Mark from Aus:
Robyn, yes I have heard of it!!!

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:48:01 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Melissa (POM) :
I hope everyone makes it back! Thanks to Daryl, it wasn't down long, I don't think! It was a quick and easy reload! Any posts you may have missed I saved!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:47:43 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Juanita:
We got a new lancet device with the Elite monitor - Microlet Auto Lancing Device. We used the Penlet . The Mocrolet uses less blood and Brian says it's less painful. Down side is it's more awkward than the Penlet and it's harder for him to "cock". I think an older kid or adult could do it ok.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:47:43 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Theresa from Savannah::
Juanita.I would be happy to send you my Accu_check metter.For son to use at school.I have no use for it .I still have some strips.The metter was just calibrate .It the same metter my SON carries with him a school.He is so proud of himself.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:47:27 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
JO:
I THOUGHT IT WAS ME!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:47:18 (EDT) - dial-st015.essex1.com
Robynn:
Has anyone heard of a Glucometer Esprit - they started being advertised here in Aust this month
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:46:51 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
Mike:
We use the Precision QID for Christy. You can add blood if you don't get enough the first time. We've saved a lot of strips because of that.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:46:47 (EDT) - gw15-ppp57.its.iadfw.net
Melissa (POM) :
One Touch Profile!


Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:46:38 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Beth:
What in heck is going on with this thing??
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:45:07 (EDT) - usr-tty151.pld.com
Brenda H.:
Melissa, something crashed somewhere and you lost a lot of us.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:44:58 (EDT) - www2.castleweb.com
Melissa (POM) :
Whoa! Sorry about that! Thank goodness for a husband who's quick with the phone! LOL I got it back up right away!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:44:58 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Mark from Aus:
Geez, What happenned???!!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:44:27 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Theresa from Savannah::
Sorry about the typos my English id still poor.My promble with the Onetouch basic.I have trouble also ,useing the lancet ..getting the blood on the strip before it shuts off.It also uses a more expernice lace.The test time is way toolong.The accu check is faster.smaller fit in my running shoes if need be.Everything was in one case.Not so with the One touch.The onetouch strips are also more expernce.My endo doesn't recomend use the G kind.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:44:09 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Juanita:
Tell me more about the new monitor from eleite?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:43:49 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
Ok, Mark! Give it about 1/2 an hour and we'll talk about all that you found! :-)

Here's another one about the One Touch Profile!!

Hi!

Kiersten (age 4 1/2) uses the One Touch Profile. You put in the strip,
apply a bubbled up drop of blood, and wait 45 seconds. It holds 250
readings at a time, and you can code them for before and after the three
main meals, bedtime, exercise, hypoglycemia, different food, during the
night, etc. You can also program in your carb counts and your insulin, but
we haven't used those functions, since it doesn't accept fractional units,
and most of Kiersten's injections use a measurement involving a 1/2 or 1/4
unit. The memories include a 14 day and 30 day averages, and then averages
for all categories listed above: meals, bedtimes, etc.

We also have the matching software from One Touch: IN TOUCH. With the
cable attachment, we download the meter readings into the computer, and
then the data is available in about 8 or 10 varieties of graphs,
spreadsheets, or charts. We find the meter easy to use; Kiersten does
about half of her bg tests herself. The software is very user friendly,
and the graphing capabilities are wonderful for the visits to the
endocrinologist.

The meter is about $100. We got ours for free by sending in 350 Life
Points from the strip boxes from Lifescan. The test strips run about $36-
$38 per 50. The software was about $70, and extra for the cable, but well
worth it.

Our insurance (Blue Cross) pays for the prescription rate for most supplies
as long as there is a prescription on file: lancets, strips, syringes,
insulin, glucagon kit, etc. are all covered. Because of that, I am not
current on the cost per day for Kiersten's meter supplies.

We are very satisfied with the Lifescan One Touch Profile. (Our back-up
meter is our older one, the Lifescan One Touch II. It has a lower memory,
but also could be downloaded to the computer, although the endocrinologist
had the software for that one....we didn't have the capability at home when
we were using that one.)

Laurie Ridgel - ridgel@pacific.net
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:43:23 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Robynn:
hi everyone
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:37:04 (EDT) - kraken.senet.com.au
DAD:
compared to todays meters the tracer II is a dinosaur. you had to prck your finger and place the drop of blood on the strip. then start the meter when it counted to 60 it would beep lettinng you know to wipe the blood off and put it into the little itty bitty slot. after another 60 sec. it would give you a readout. when we saw the one touch II it was a life saver...
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:36:42 (EDT) - dal-tx2-53.ix.netcom.com
Melissa (POM) :
Sue, Caremark is just the insurance we got with Daryl's job! I'm sure anyone could get on with them though! They are fairly popular! When I go into the pharmacy and sign their book for caremark, I see that it is quite a large book of all the customers who used Caremark prescription service!

Here is one of the letters I got about the Profile!

ONE TOUCH PROFILE -

My daughter uses the Profile one touch from lifescan.....the machine
isnt that expensive...how ever the strips are...for 200 of them it is
169.00 here in Washington it is the most popular and the most
recommended by endocrinoligist and it does not require alot of blood
just a drop....and it takes 45 sec to count down.......also you get a
10year gaurentee and a possible extended warentee..of 5 years for
free...they stand behind there machines and they work witht the drug
store .....My daughters machine stopped working and I called the 1-800
number and they called the drug store and I went and picked up a new
one..and gave the drug store the old one.....I highly recommend this
machine...Lori White - mark.white@mail.prostar.com

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:36:40 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Brenda H.:
Lyn, we have one of them around here somewhere, but don't use it. We use the Profile at home, Precision QID in my purse, QID in Marissa's class and Profile in the school clinic. I think Jeff and I thought the SureStep was good in that there is a dot on the strip that turns blue, I think, to let you know if you have put enough blood on the strip. The downside of the meter is putting the bloody strip in the machine; cleaning is not that easy. We have tried almost every meter in the past 4 yrs!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:36:24 (EDT) - www2.castleweb.com
Jody:
Thanks for chatting. I've got to run! I'll be back for more discussions in the future.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:36:09 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Lori:
Hi all. Jarrod uses the Precision QID and we have been happy with it. It counts down in 20 seconds and can be move around to put the drop of blood on.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:35:48 (EDT) - 205.133.148.49
JO:
The diabetic association provides your meter and the strips. They bill the insurance- takes what the insurance pays. You PAY NOTHING
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:35:48 (EDT) - dial-st015.essex1.com
Juanita:
My son uses the Sure Step at school. He likes it and the school hasn't complained. My endo says it's not as accurate though.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:35:24 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Sue from IL:
Guess I should start saving those points, huh?? Think my brain just missed the boat here!! lol
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:34:29 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
Alan Bachrach:
Our kids are three and four and a half. We do all the checking although I am making progress in teaching the four and a half year old. The nice thing about the elite is that if the kid is struggling its a lot easier to get the blood onto the strip. With the advantage we were having to fight both the kid and the machine!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:34:18 (EDT) - user-38lc73t.dialup.mindspring.com
Juanita:
Jo, thanks for the idea about taking the stips out of the foil and putting themin a bottle, I guess I just thought those foil packets were magic or something.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:34:09 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Debbie (TJ's mom):
Melissa, it was 300 points for the Profile and sorry I haven't seen anything recent to use the Lifepoints on.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:34:03 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Mark from Aus:
I did oversleep!!! I can only stay for an hour and a half because I have to work again!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:33:06 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Lyn:
Hello. Is anyone using the meter called Sure Step?

I've read it's great for young children becaue you put the drop of blood on the test strip, then insert it into the meter.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:32:51 (EDT) - pdial47.wisedial.wilmington.net
Marcia:
The meters are like the Kodak cameras they used to give away..you get the meter "free" and then you spend $130 per month on their strips!! works great
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:32:48 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Juanita:
Thanks for the input on the foil...I wondered. Also, Alan you sound sold on the Elite, is that for you or a child?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:31:31 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Marcia:
The thing I like about the One touch is that I can download and print the last 250 numbers (since my daughter never seems to get them in her log book any more!) by the way, I have 100's of lifescan points and haven't seen any offers to use them in a long time..I got the profile meter and a bunch of phone cards with them last year.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:31:14 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Melissa (POM) :
LOL Yep Sue! That's where they are! On the boxes! I've been saving for ages and have TONS cause I couldn't remember how many you needed to get a free Profile! Debbie, do you know if they are still offering that?

Hey Mark, just sent you an email... thought you'd overslept! LOL

Hey Daryl (DAD) did you see my message? Tell them about our Tracer!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:30:31 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Jane:
So you think I should be worried about the advantage accucheck?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:30:01 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Debbie (TJ's mom):
Sorry Sue, they are on the box! Look for a small rectangle that says 50 or 100 Lifepoints! Every once in a while the company has promotons where you can turn those in for free stuff.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:29:58 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Alan Bachrach:
As far as I can tell you can get any of the machines for free. The companies make their money on the strips. Call the diabetes educator at any hospital and they will have at least one brand available for free. We have gone through about 6 machines and have not paid for any of them. However with two kids we spend $7.50 per day on strips! (2 kids X 5 glucose checks each!). Believe me, they make the money.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:29:55 (EDT) - user-38lc73t.dialup.mindspring.com
Brenda H.:
Jody, I know that Bayer is coming out with a different type of system for the "strips." Rather than individually wrapped strips, they come as a "wheel" with about 10-12 "strips" per wheel. My husband saw them at the ADA conference in late June. Unfortunately, he is not here to talk about the.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:29:45 (EDT) - www2.castleweb.com
JO:
If you have problems wiht the foil wrappers can you use a plastic bottle, Accu check easy has them. And open a few out of the foil and put them in the plastic bottle for your son. Then all he has to do is open it and the strips are already out of the foil. It is air tight.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:29:32 (EDT) - dial-st015.essex1.com
Juanita:
The profile is hard for Brian to do on his
own (5). I was really hoping the Elite
would be the answer. But he can't
handle the strips. He can do everything
except hit that darn "spot" ..his coorordination
isn't good enough.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:29:12 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Sue from IL:
Melissa, Caremark? Is that available to anyone? Sounds great!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:28:41 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
Theresa from Savannah::
Here my metter list .There is metter for poor Dexterity .I found this out in the hosptail on the diabetic unit.It i scalled the Advantage by Accu -check.Toll phone # is 1>888>638.3763.They are aslo the makes of the Partner for the visually imaired .It speaks to you literally.This company also fills out insurance company paperwork .They ship free to your door.There is new meter for people or childeren haveing trouble training .It has no calibration or codeing.thr R-G-S .It can be order at the toll free number.

Editor's note: I found this picture of the One Touch 11 Voice Synthesizer from Lifescan for the visually impaired!

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:28:12 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
TJ:
The Elite is also nice to carry for us dad's who don't have pocket books
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:27:49 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Jane:
With the accucheck not much blood is needed and if you don't cover the strip completely you can add more within 15 seconds just can't smear.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:27:44 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Alan Bachrach:
Hi Folks. Just joining in. We have tried the advantage, but currently use the glucometer elite. The cost of strips seems to be about the same for all. The "vaccum" effect of the elite makes it a lot easier. We never waste strips anymore because of inadquate amounts of blood. I wouldn't use any other at this point.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:26:58 (EDT) - user-38lc73t.dialup.mindspring.com
Jody:
Doesn't it make you wonder why there are so many free Advantage meters these days?? That makes me a little nervous!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:26:24 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Melissa (POM) :
We just get prescriptions for everything we need and send them all to Caremark, our prescription mail order company! They send us everything we need for 3 months at a time! But it MUST have a prescription with it! They have a diabetes package where we get all the strips, needles, lancets, insulin and everything all for $12 for 3 months!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:25:58 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Sue from IL:
Debbie, where do you get Lifescan points? And please don't tell me they are on all those boxes of strips I've thrown away!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:25:55 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
DAD:
Hello Mark...
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:25:49 (EDT) - dal-tx2-53.ix.netcom.com
Jody:
One advantage of the foil-wrapped strips is that you don't need to worry about the whole bottle of strips being exposed to air and light if left unopen (I'm not sure how much this happens in real life!) The nice thing about them is the convenience; you only have to take a few with you as opposed to the whole bottle.

I wouldn't let the strips determine the meter, rather, the accuracy and your needs.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:25:39 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Juanita:
We got a free meter at camp - Acucheck, and then
a free Glucometeer eleite. to check out.
I guess they're giving away the Elite since
they have a new one coming out.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:25:33 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Mark from Aus:
Hello!!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:24:59 (EDT) - proxy.winsoft.net.au
Jane:
our insurance paid for the first one we bought the second for school. Strips are paid for completely. we also got another monitor(Accucheck) free at camp, it was purple, kids loved it!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:24:28 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Juanita:
Can someone tell me more about the foil wrapped
strips? They seem to be hard for my
son, what's the pro for them?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:23:52 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Debbie (TJ's mom):
We bought only the first meter. I got the Profile free for 300 Lifescan points and I got an Accucheck Advantage free over the phone by agreeing to try it out. TJ went to diabetes camp for a week but did not get any meters there.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:23:49 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
TJ:
The Elite is nice bcause you don't have to get as much blood and you don't have to have good aim
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:23:44 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Jody:
Juanita, would you like info re: the new 30 second Elite or their other meter?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:23:14 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Juanita:
Tell me more about the new monitor from eleite?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:21:31 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
It is best to change the "number of displayed messages" from 8 to about 20 or 30 so it's easier to keep up with all the posts!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:21:20 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
:
My husband gets his meter and strips from the diabetic association. You can also get insulin.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:20:24 (EDT) - dial-st015.essex1.com
Sue from IL:
Never even thought of submitting it to insurance!! dummy!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:20:17 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
Juanita:
We had some trouble with the insurance
company dragging their feet on strips and
sometimes other stuff. I tried Fifty50
and they get the $ quickly.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:20:13 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Juanita:
We had some trouble with the insurance
company dragging their feet on strips and
sometimes other stuff. I tried Fifty50
and they get the $ quickly.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:54 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Theresa from Savannah::
I have found that one touch hard to use .As I have poor dexterity.I had used the Accu check easy 2 for years.The only reason I switched was it was Canadain metter the Doctors on base where unable to read.Nicholas been able to use the Accu -easy 2 ,by himself since was 5.It is easy to calibate and codeing is auto.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:45 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Jody:
For those of you who prefer foil-wrapped strips, but you are having problems with opening the Elite strips, the Precision strips are also foil-wrapped. They have a small "tear mark" which allows for easier opening.

Easiest of all will be the new meter out by the company that makes the Elite. Keep your eyes open for it!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:43 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Jane:
Our insurance pays for the accucheck, we like alright except for the memory, you can't scroll back and forth you have to start all over!

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:42 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Brenda H.:
The Oct. Diabetes Forecast has some info on pages 68-71 about meters. I think it is online at the ADA site (www.diabetes.org/DiabetesForecast).
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:37 (EDT) - www2.castleweb.com
Melissa (POM) :
Hey Pink Panther, you're in the right place!

I got alot of letters from people telling me about their meters! This one was sent to me by Judith!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The One Touch II was our main meter for a number of years, until we
got the deluxe Profile, also by Lifescan. I've tried nearly every meter
made in the past ten years or so (at home or at camp)and find that the One
Touch II ranks very near the top of the list. It is easy to use, with only
three steps (turn on power, insert strip, apply drop), making it a very good
choice for children from about the age of three up. Results are ready in 45
seconds. On-screen prompts, in a choice of nineteen languages, guide the
user and point out problems and possible solutions.
It is considered to be one of the most accurate and reliable
machines made. One of the best features is the 250-reading memory, complete
with time and date notation. Numbers representing specific occurences (such
as illness, exercise, etc.) can be used as event markers with any reading.
Results can be readily downloaded to a computer and the data manipulated in
various ways. Lifescan offers a software management program (In Touch), and
the meter is also compatible with Humabase, used by many physicians. It is
easy to scroll backward through the memory manually, and there is automatic
averaging of the readings of the last fourteen days.
The machine itself is very sturdy, holding up well under the
less-than-gentle handling of a child. When we have had problems, I've found
the 24-hour-a-day toll-free Lifescan support to be excellent. If the
situation was not easily remedied, a new meter was sent to us immediately,
without charge, generally arriving in 24-36 hours (once in only 16 hours!).
There are a few negatives to the One Touch II: Because it offers so
many features, it is necessarily one of the larger machines on the market,
making it somewhat bulky for purse or pocket. It must be placed on a flat
surface when used, and the fairly large drop of blood aimed accurately onto
the strip; an inadequate amount will trigger an error message. The test
window area does get contaminated with blood, especially when used by a
child. Cleaning is quite easy, but the detachable strip holder could
potentially be lost or broken in the process. The strips come with various
code numbers - 1 through 16 - and the meter must be manually set to match
the code in use. Probably the biggest disadvantage is that the power supply
comes from a size J battery - not always readily available late at night,
when meters invariably die! (There is a "low battery" warning message prior
to absolute shutdown, and no memory is lost during battery changes.)
The meter is available for around $70 or less and strips run about
$32 per 50 or $54 per 100, comparable to most other brands. The strips are
widely available since they are also used by Lifescan's Profile and One
Touch Basic meters.
In summary, I would highly recommend the One Touch II as a nearly
ideal meter for the newly diagnosed child of age three or older, as well as
for adults.
Judith Renwick


Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:14 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Sue from IL:
Have any of you purchased your meters? I have heard others talk of never paying for a meter since they spend so much $ for strips. We paid for both of ours! But also got 2 free Accuchecks from d camp.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:19:00 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
TJ:
Ct. just started a new law yesterday requiring the ins. co's to provide supplies
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:18:05 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Debbie (TJ's mom):
Our insurance will pay as long as you get a prescription from the doctor.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:17:52 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Juanita:
This is hard to keep up with. Do you get
use to this?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:17:28 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Jane:
There we go, didn't mean to repeat myself! I know what you mean about the elite those strips are HARD! Rachel got it free from Camp Rainbow!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:17:23 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Berna:
New York has the same law. However the insurance companies decide what meter they will pay for
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:17:14 (EDT) - srv-3-16.roc.ny.frontiernet.net
Sue from Ont.:
The last time I was at my endo's they told me my machine (One Touch Basic) was showing the most accurate results they had seen all day.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:17:08 (EDT) - ts5-5.lon.hookup.net
Jody:
TJ--just call the 800 number on the back of your son's meter and ask for the new model. If you have trouble getting that, contact your son's physician. They should be able to arrange that for you.


Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:16:50 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Melissa (POM) :
hehehehehe I DID mention that DAD is Daryl, didn't I? LOL Sorry! Hey Daryl! Want to tell them about what we STARTED with? You've used it enough recently to be quite knowledgable about it! :-)
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:16:48 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
:
DAD-- maybe you can help me. I'm new at this and want to see the forum tonight. Is it in this room or do I click on Melissa's forum?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:16:39 (EDT) - dial-st015.essex1.com
Debbie (TJ's mom):
It's ok Melissa!!! They kicked me out. Visiting hours are over.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:16:35 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Juanita:
Our insurance pays the same no matter what
meter we use, so it\'s really up to us.
But it seems that the endo has some
definite preferrences as to the primary meter.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:16:19 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Sue from IL:
Our insurance doesn't say anything one way or another about the meter or test strips.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:16:11 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
Jody:
In Minnesota, insurance companies are required by law to provide supplies for individuals with diabetes. However, the insurance can play a part in the decision. Any other states have similar laws?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:15:44 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Jane:
I seemed to have lost ya'll anyone still there?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:15:27 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Jane:
I seemed to have lost ya'll anyone still there?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:15:24 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
TJ:
Thanks Jody I wasn't aware of the 30 sec meter we'll have to check into that one.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:15:07 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Melissa (POM) :
Wow Jody! That is wonderful news! I hadn't heard about that one!

Debbie, is he in the hospital? Gosh I'm so sorry! I hope you don't feel pressured to be here... go and be with him if you need to!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:15:07 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Marcia:
Do your insurance companies dictate which meters you use or is it pretty much up to the person?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:14:41 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Debbie (TJ's mom):
Our endo recommended the One Touch. When we go in for a visit she downloads the Profile into her computer.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:14:28 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
DAD:
I'm Melissa's husband....
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:13:44 (EDT) - dal-tx2-53.ix.netcom.com
Juanita:
We just got the glucometer elite for a free
trial. I like the meter, but the strips
are hard for Brian to "peel" out.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:13:26 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Melissa (POM) :
We have never had a problem getting blood from Kristina's fingers! When she was a baby, they would bleed forever and keeping a cotton ball on it till it stopped was always a challenge! She didn't like us holding onto her fingers so one of the first things she learned to hold on her own was a cotton ball! LOL

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:13:20 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
Jody:
TJ--I have some good news for you re: the Elite. I'm not sure which model of the Elite you have, but there is one that is only 30 seconds (vs. 60) and it does have a memory (but without date and time). There is a new meter coming out by the same company hopefully by the end of the year with date and time; unsure about downloading capabilities on that one.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:13:01 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Debbie (TJ's mom):
TJ uses the Profile at home and the One Touch II in school.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:12:40 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
TJ:
We use the one touch profile at school
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:12:40 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Juanita:
We use the profile as the basic meter
for Brian who is 5, our endo has really
pushed it...they don't seem to like any
of the others.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:11:37 (EDT) - 1cust60.max25.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Debbie (TJ's mom):
Melissa, my Dad is stable right now, I just wish they knew the cause of his dizzy spell. He should be home in a few days.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:10:59 (EDT) - nyd-as3s62.erols.com
Melissa (POM) :
Thanks for stopping by PW!!

Everyone, I'd like to introduce you to my ever loving husband who works so hard so that I can do this! he's always quick to fix the computer for me when it goes down and he's wonderful about taking care of the kids for me when I need to be online!! :-)
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:10:56 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
TJ:
we're using the glucometer elite for Ryan age 7 so far he likes it but the memory and lack of downloading is kind of disappointing
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:10:46 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Sue from Ont.:
I still use the One Touch Basic. I'm such an oldie. I don't change easily!

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:10:11 (EDT) - ts5-5.lon.hookup.net
Jody:
The One Touch meters are nice and accurate, but I prefer the Precision QID--it's small, it doesn't require cleaning, and the latest research is showing that it is very accurate.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:10:08 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Jane:
We use the AccuCheck Advantage
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:10:08 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Sue from IL:
Melissa, we use the One Touch Basic and Profile for Amy - Basic is for school, Profile for home.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:09:31 (EDT) - ww-pa03.proxy.aol.com
Marcia:
We started with the One touch with the little door you had to close and have worked our way up to the profile. It is one of the easiest to use. we use it at the hospital where I work. I don't like it for tiny kids because it takes a pretty big drop to be accurate.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:09:18 (EDT) - world233.worldaccessnet.com
Jane:
Sorry guys I didn't realize it was time for the forum!!!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:09:08 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Melissa (POM) :

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:09:06 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
pw :
Melissa I am leaving now I just had to know who that voice was and yes he did a very nice Jo Hi DAD
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:08:19 (EDT) - ts003d07.spr-ma.concentric.net
Theresa from Savannah::
Yes I use that metter .I just bought it last week .
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:08:16 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
Jane:
Anyone Here to chat?
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:07:32 (EDT) - ww-tp04.proxy.aol.com
Theresa from Savannah::
Good evinin Melissa.*s*
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:07:28 (EDT) - 1cust9.max17.atlanta.ga.ms.uu.net
DAD:
I took a break and snuck online with the company account.
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:07:18 (EDT) - dal-tx2-53.ix.netcom.com
Melissa (POM) :
Ok, lets start! Gosh there's so much to talk about!! Lets save the non-invasive meters for last! We'll start with Lifescan ones, ok? Does anyone use the One Touch Basic anymore? We use the One Touch 11 and it's been wonderful for Kristina! Perfect for her little fingers when she was 2 and 3 years old and wanted to do it all HERSELF! LOL
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:07:09 (EDT) - 207.22.198.49
TJ:
got it PW thanks
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:07:03 (EDT) - ww-tr03.proxy.aol.com
Sue from Ont.:
Hello everyone
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:06:57 (EDT) - ts5-5.lon.hookup.net
pw :

Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:06:49 (EDT) - ts003d07.spr-ma.concentric.net
Jody:
Sue, you're not alone. I was wondering if I was the only late one!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:06:26 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com
Jody:
Hi everyone!
Thursday, October 02, 1997 at 22:05:34 (EDT) - dd06-068.dub.compuserve.com


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