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Summer Camp~~This forum was held 4/3/97. It had alot of ideas about how to handle summer camp and where to find good camps! Also a sample doctor's referal was emailed to everyone. At the end of this forum, Ellen and I began talking about problems with schools and the 504 plan. |
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Camp and Sleepovers Diabetes Connection Summer Adventure Camp Melissa (POM) : Goodnight Ellen!! ***poof*** Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:46:21 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Melissa (POM) : Wow!! 3 nurses!!! that must be a big school!!!! But that is wonderful!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:44:32 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: Good night to you, Melissa! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:42:45 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Well, you take care!! I'll see you again soon!! Goodnight Ellen!! ((((HUGS))))) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:42:05 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: I definitely want to evaluate other schools. We've checked a few private ones, but weren't impressed. I did apply to work for the district and it might be an easy solution. I can be on hand for emergencies, but of course the district still needs a nurse!!!! I would love to live in Texas! I also heard from a fellow who has 3 full-time nurses in his son's school. That sounds good to me, too. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:40:49 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : OH MY GOSH!!!!!!! that is just too much!!!!! I think I should just fly to WA with a few strong willed, stubborn Texans and start a rally or something!!! GEEEZ!!! And they still won't get a nurse??? What is the matter with these people??? Maybe changing schools is a real good idea!! HEY!!! Texas is always a nice place to live!! hehehehe Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:38:37 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: It would be a real education to operate a home page! I check out your web page as often as I can, but in March I had my mother-in-law staying with us and I had NO free time at all. I need to recheck it again. Thanks for your good wishes. All the best to you, too! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:37:14 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Thanks Ellen!! The sponsor is still in the works but I'm hoping!! I was really lucky to find them!! I surf all the time looking for things that I think might be of use to someone!! I'm amazed at how much I've learned over the last year, and especially since I became the monitor here!! Did you see my webpage too??? It's got some of my best bookmarks in it!! I need to add more to it too!!! Well, goodnight! I'm glad you could come tonight!! I sure hope things work out with the suit and the nurse problems!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:35:25 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: Agreed. I think it's going to take a serious problem to open up the eyes of the parents and the district. Last week a 12 year old was run over by the school bus near our house. Guess who gave aid? The school bus driver, since there wasn't a nurse (the accident was right in the school parking lot and of course there was no nurse). Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:34:34 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : OH NO!!! I was discussing the lack of nurses in all the schools with a few moms at church one day! None of them have diabetic children or children with serious medical needs but they were just as outraged as me!! I wish there was something I could do about it!! It's just not right and it makes me so mad!! In my opinion, diabetes isn't nearly as serious as some diseases and handicaps!!! The schools NEED a nurse to be sure those kids get the care they need!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:32:16 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: Your home page is fantastic...it isn't easy to do and you did it WELL. You even got a sponsor, which is tremendous! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:30:49 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Ellen from WA State: Well, I know it's early on the west coast, but I need to go to bed! Thanks for a fabulous forum, Melissa. Give those kids of yours a hug from me! :o) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:28:59 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : LOL Ellen!! THIS is my support group!! I used to get so many letters from parents and we'd trade advice and ideas all the time!! You and I did ALOT when we first met!! Then the oportunity to monitor this room came up and I jumped at the chance!! It has just grown in leaps and bounds since then!! And now there is a real, honest to goodness support group here and it's not just through the email anymore!! The sponsor is Home Medical Supply Ellen!! If you click on their banner it'll take you to their home page! They can supply you with everything you could possible ever want as far as diabetic supplies!! I ran across them one day when I was looking for information on a meter!! They have a wonderful site that is beneficial to all of us here!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:28:37 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: "Healthy" families just taken their good health for granted and the neighbors I've talked to about the lack of nursing care seem sympathetic, but feel it's my problem. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:25:17 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Hi Nightingale!! Thanks but it turns out, it's still in the works!! But they have a beautiful banner, don't you think?? :-) Ellen, that is so outrageous!!! the rest of the parents must be just as upset about it all as you are!! Have you spoken to any of them??? Their child will need medical attention just as much as anyone else's at some point or another!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:23:07 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: Maybe we can start our own local support groups! Just what you need though...another activity to do, right? What's this about a sponsor, Melissa? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:21:44 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Ooops!! Sorry about that! It stalled!! I used to go to their support group when Kristina was first diagnosed!! It was wonderful to see other diabetic kids and they were running around just the same as the non diabetic kids!! I think that's what impressed us the most... that they were completely normal kids!!! We eventually stopped going when I felt like the subjects they were discussing just didn't have anything to do with us cause our child was so much younger!! now though, I have PLENTY to say when I go to one!! They're just so far away!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:20:08 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 NIGHTINGALE: room looks great..heard the news about your sponser so happy for you! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:20:00 (EST) - max09-039.qni.com Ellen from WA State: It's just incredible to me that our school secretary is responsible for the responsibilities your school nurse manages. This week our superindentant quit. I had the chance to talk to him a few weeks ago and he was frustrated with several issues. Our schools are overflowing, but the staff support is lacking. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:18:46 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net NIGHTINGALE: congratulations Melissa!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:18:33 (EST) - max09-039.qni.com Melissa (POM) : Yes, Ellen!! They really need to hire a nurse!! I see our school nurse sooooo busy everyday at lunch time, handing out meds to the kids!! Then there are the few handicapped kids to take care of, the sick ones who need to go home and the odd cut and scrape!!! Our nurse is kept running constantly!! I'm so amazed that not all schools have nurses for these kind of things!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:16:32 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: The support from here is tremendous! It's a one of a kind support system really. I have only been to one support group meeting and I sat and cried during the entire meeting. I have never been back, but I feel guilty every month! I need to try it again. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:13:47 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Ellen, we meet other families when we go to the support group meetings!! The only problem for us is that they are an hour's drive away! They start at 7pm, usually end between 8:30 and 9pm and we don't get home till 10pm!!! And it's a school night!! the girls are dead the next day!! That's why I really love coming here so much more!! Less hassle and LOTS of support!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:11:49 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: To SFN: I agree with your point and it's well taken. I do wish the district would hire our school a nurse though. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:10:59 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Ellen from WA State: To SFN: It really is a challenge to find a qualified doctor! We live in a rural community and the doctors here are limited. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:09:35 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Were they here Mark?? They never said hello!! I was beginning to wonder! goodnight and thank you so much!! I'll send this to Ron tomorrow and he'll have yet ANOTHER forum to get up for me!! LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:08:55 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 SFN: I do have to leave.. but let me put this thought to ya Ellen.... if teachers started giving injections to kids in the schools like happens in home care iwth caregivers and the like.. it might get to be quite a slippery slope with regards to licenses and things.. well.. got to go.... Melissa..... it was a great forum.... as usual..... Mark Email me with some information about sponsors for the rooms. I have someone in San Jose... a Travel Nurse agency that may be interested in sponsoring a Chat room..... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:08:44 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Ellen from WA State: Good night Mark and thanks for the ideas! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:06:34 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Mark: Well ladies... I'm gonna head on off!! If our friends at Home medical are still lurking... how you enjoyed the forum... hope to talk with you soon! Nite all! ***poof*** Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:05:44 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Ellen from WA State: The doctor Melissa has been seeing is a Ped Endo, but his care is still substandard. I guess I've gotten increasingly unhappy with him since he thinks our expectations from the school district are unreasonable. I'm going to take Melissa to Children's Hospital in Seattle and see if they will support us. Sounds like your Ped Endo does a good job! One thing I would like from a class is the opportunity to meet other families. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:05:12 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net SFN: Qualified vs Unqulaified... boy don't get us nurses started on that topic or we will rock the house down... it is not an easy task to find a qulaified person ..... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:03:25 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Mark: They should at least be able to refer you to someone who specialises in Discriminatory law!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:02:48 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Melissa (POM) : Wow Ellen!! What about a Ped Endo??? I know several people who are being treated by their family doctor!! Margaret in Australia is happy with hers but there was a man on here not too long ago when his nephew was in the hospital and still hadn't seen a ped endo in 10 days!!!! It was rediculous and I hit the roof that that poor baby should be in the hospital so long and still have unstable blood sugars!!! And we have never taken a "class" either!! Instead, we had (and always have had) private, individual training from our ped endo and our nurse educator and the dietician!! We see all 3 on every visit and a social worker on occassion! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:02:20 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Ellen from WA State: Thanks ever so much for the phone number! I'll call them tomorrow. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:01:43 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Mark: Ellen ... here's the JDF phone # 1-800-JDF-CURE Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 23:00:59 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Ellen from WA State: Indeed there are handicapped teachers in our district. What I find discouraging is that there are several staff members begging to learn how to give injections and the district refuses to let them learn. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:59:38 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Ellen from WA State: Thanks for the information on the JDF. I don't know why I never thought to call them. I bet they have had troubles with injections in particular. Our school just says they will keep Melissa perfectly healthy. I really could sue them if they fall short of this unreasonable statement! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:58:01 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Mark: especially if they provide special ed teachers for handicapped children... then they are being dicriminatory!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:57:05 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Melissa (POM) : OOOOHHHHHHHHHH Lynn!!! That' right!!!! See?? I am tired!! How could I forget that you met Mark here??? hehehehehe Wow Ellen!! I just can't get over that they won't hire a nurse!! I've talked to sooo many parents about nurses in the schools ~~ Even parents of non-diabetic kids!! It's an absolute outrage that not every school has their own nurse!!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:56:51 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 SFN: Sorry Mark.... somebody that I know jsut got back from a vacation in Barbados... for some reason I thought it was YOU...... OPS..... now leave it to me to get things mixed up......hehehehehehe..... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:56:39 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Ellen from WA State: It's sad to think we have unqualified doctors giving care. I happened to take my son to another doctor in the facility my daughter sees the diabetologist. This other doctor recommended switching doctors and said we needed better care. I am still in schock! I thought this was a qualified doctor, but she says he doesn't offer all the necessary education we need. Our daughter was diagnosed 2 years ago and we've never had a single class. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:56:27 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Mark: Ellen.. the ymay be able to help... they may know simular situations in the same school or geo. area... and may be able to initiate a class action because of this... sounds to me like a great Civil Liberties Union case as well!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:55:34 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Mark: By the way Ellen... great idea for a forum!!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:53:32 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Ellen from WA State: Mark, I have not yet contacted the JDF. The attorney had been doing all the leg work, but I know he hasn't called them either. Would they be able to help? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:53:22 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Debbie: Thanks SFN. Sweet Dreams to you all! I have to get up early tomorrow!:) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:53:00 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Melissa (POM) : SFN, me too!!! hehehehe Isn't that funny?? Nite Debbie!! I'm so glad you could come to this!! Good night Lynn!! Keep smiling!! You always make me laugh!! come by for a chat sometime when you have time!!! Ellen, was that doctor a pediatric endocronologist?????? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:52:45 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Mark: Ellen... did you contact the JDF??? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:52:36 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net SFN: Debbi.... My hat goes off to ya... You really do have your hands full. .. and TJ as well..... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:51:46 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Mark: SFN: did ya get a tan in Barbados???????? me... Barbados????? don't I wish!!!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:51:43 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Ellen from WA State: The school battle has been put on hold. The district still won't allow anyone but a nurse to give injections and they won't hire a nurse. The next step is the civil rights office and my attorney says we have 6 months to file. Our chances aren't great, since there are legal cases supportive of the district's position. At this point I'm considering switching schools. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:51:06 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Mark: Nite Lynn.. thanks for coming! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:49:54 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Ellen from WA State: Melissa can I make a suggestion for a future forum? I would like to discuss qualified vs. unqualifed diabetic doctors. I have been e-mailing a mom with a little girl just diagnosed in February. The care the doctor gave was deplorable. The doctor finally admitted he had never had a diabetic child in his care before and he almost killed her with insulin. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:49:19 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Debbie: THanks Lynn! It's almost midnight here so I need to say goodnight also. Great forum Melissa! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:49:00 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Melissa (POM) : LOL Ellen!! Don't feel bad! I'm tired too and I had a 3 hour nap!!! hehehe How's the problems with school going?? Any better?? Lynn, I don't think I realized you knew Mark!!??? Did I?? I don't remember now!! NEAT!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:48:24 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 SFN: Hey POM... I even had a hard time callin' ya Melissa when wees was fact to face.....hehehehehe.... Hey Markie my man... Yous is still here.....did ya get a tan in Barbados.... geesh....that sounded so GREAT!!!!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:48:08 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Lynn from NJ: Point well-taken, Deb. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:47:53 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Debbie: I don't deserve an award! TJ does!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:47:27 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Lynn from NJ: {{{Mark}}} nice to "see" you again. And Debbie, best of luck. I bet you're right, that they've probably handled it before, and everything would be just fine. I can't STAND that side of me that doubts everything. Thank goodness the other side wins most of the time :) Night, all. Thanks again, Melissa. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:47:07 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Mark: OK Melissa... send it to Ron so he can get it up on the chat!! :-) Great Forum!! as usual!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:46:49 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Ellen from WA State: Hi Melissa! Your POM handle is well earned with all you do. I feel guilty for feeling tired tonight and I haven't done much of anything! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:45:35 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Lynn from NJ: Debbie, I am also lucky with my asthmatic. Not really terrible attacks like I hear about from other parents. I can't imagine both things hitting one kid. And having to be that parent. You ought to be nominated for some award having to control all that at once! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:45:16 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Mark: Awwww Lynn.. you know me!! walk softly and carry a BIG keyboard!! hehehe Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:45:15 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Melissa (POM) : Bye Lynn!! Great to see you!! Hope I answered you question for you!!! :-) Ellen, it's so nice to see you!! Yes Mark, I've been saving about every 20 minutes!! That's about how long it took for another 100 messages to post!!! this was so FANTASTIC!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:44:49 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Mark: Hi SFN! yep still here!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:44:04 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Lynn from NJ: Mark old buddy old pal... how's it hittin, pal? Nice to see you. And here you thought you could lurk and I wouldn't notice :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:43:51 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Debbie: Lynn, this is a very difficult decision for us, believe me. It hasn't been easy with both asthma and diabetes, but TJ is doing well and wants to go. I'd hate to hold him back. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:43:30 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Mark: :-) Hi Lynn!! How are you?? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:42:58 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net SFN: Donald..... are you having difficulty with the room and each time you re-enter that statement comes back... or are you trying to tell us something else about your wife having diabetes.... ????? If you want to get rid of the statement.....just bookmark the room after you have posted "nothing" in the chat box.. youu will know that it is empty when you look up to the location box below the toolbar (if you are using Netxcape)... and there is nothing after the address of the room.... Mark... would you still be lurking around here????? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:42:36 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Lynn from NJ: Wait... is that Mark? Like, ***the*** Mark? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:41:52 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Melissa (POM) : Ok, if anyone is wondering what the POM is for....... It's cause it's my handle!!! When I first joined a chat, I met Grey Ghost and Jet! I thought I was SUPPOSED to have a handle!! I chose Pooped Out Mom since I was espcially tired that night!!! It created a certain picture of me in people's minds and people remembered me for it so I always kept it! It didn't take long for it to be shortened to POM!! so you will sometimes see old friends, like SFN, still calling me POM!! When I became the moderator of this room, I wanted to present a more professional appearance and started using my own name!! But some of my old friends didn't know me by my name! So now I just use both to simplify things!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:40:51 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Mark: Melissa... did you archive?? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:40:41 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Lynn from NJ: Last parting thought... Debbie, give me an insulin reaction ANY DAY over a child who cannot breathe. Although the chances are modest that an asthmatic child will "outgrow" the affliction and diabetics are (for the moment) stuck with theirs, the immediate needs of a child in an asthma attack, as you know are just that: immediate. I'm not sure I would send my asthmatic child (just me being overprotective, I'm sure) away to camp. Good luck! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:40:36 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Ellen from WA State: I didn't know aid or insurance might help! That's good to know. There's a camp for 5-13 year olds. How does an age spread like that work? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:40:02 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Debbie: Ellen, most of the camps offer financial aid. Also you may be able to get your medical insurance to pay for some or all of the fees. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:38:52 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Debbie: The diabetes usually is our main concern but the asthma regimen is just as important. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:37:26 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Ellen from WA State: We are sending our 6 year old to a camp for 6-8 year olds that lasts one weekend in June. The cost is reasonable, unlike the many other camps I researched. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:37:03 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Donald: LYN... My wife is a diabetic... she has had severe reactions in the evenings in the past so much so..had to call the ambulance. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:36:47 (EST) - valleyonline.com SFN: POM there were only TWO camps in all of the state of California...WOW. that is not much... but one of them was right there in San Jose.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:36:16 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Lynn from NJ: Hello Ellen, and goodbye everyone else :( It's getting late here in the east. Thanks for the Forum, Melissa. As always, a terrific experience. You guys are great! And Melissa, I like what you've done to the place. Pretty spiffy. Keep up the good work. :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:36:05 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Debbie: There were many parents who are thinking about it and many who have sent their kids for several summers. Mostly positive remarks. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:35:59 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Melissa (POM) : Wow Debbie! I hadn't thought of that! I'm sure they would be keeping really close tabs on him!! They must get many children with asthma though!! That's pretty common I think!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:35:44 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Donald: LYN... My wife is a diabetic... she has had severe reactions in the evenings in the past so much so..had to call the ambulance. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:34:47 (EST) - valleyonline.com Debbie: TJ has three different asthma medications he gets along with the diabetes regimen! I would imagine they could handle it. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:34:32 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Ellen from WA State: I'm sure I missed a lot. Is everyone sending their kids to camp this summer? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:33:52 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Melissa (POM) : Goodnight Lori!! Thanks for coming!! See you soon!! Yea, SFN, they always have an ABUNDANCE of counselors!! There is one girl in the castleweb chat who spends her entire summer being a counselor at camp!! She loves it and looks forward to it!! I think she's mentioned something about it just about everytime I've ever spoken to her!! Being a counselor is GREAT for the older teens!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:33:16 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Debbie: Hi Ellen! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:33:04 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Ellen from WA State: Hi there! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:32:37 (EST) - cust47.max40.seattle.wa.ms.uu.net Lynn from NJ: Wish I could spell! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:32:17 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Debbie: I forgot to ask if the camps are good with kids who also have other medical condition! TJ's asthma!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:32:13 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net Lynn from NJ: Goodngiht, Lori. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:31:02 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Lynn from NJ: Melissa, I just went there myself, and e-mailed them for more info. Sounds like a terrific concept. NOT to have to go to the pharmacy? Too cool, and I'm there!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:30:38 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Melissa (POM) : I'm still here Debbie!! I was saving the chat!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:30:09 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lori: Thanks for the information. I need to be going,too. Goodnight all. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:29:51 (EST) - will_18s.citynet.net Lynn from NJ: Hang on, Deb... let me pass you the anchor! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:29:29 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Melissa (POM) : Thanks Laurie!!! :-) They have a great website!! If anyone is looking for anything in particular, click on the Home Medical Supply banner and visit their website!! They have quite a selection of everything you could ever want!!! Goodnight Laurie!!! Sweet dreams!! (((HUGS))) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:28:57 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Debbie: I got booted! Is everyone leaving? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:28:55 (EST) - ppp-25.ts-3.nyc.idt.net SFN: A ratio or 3:1, 4:1 and 5:1....those are pretty good ratio's... very good to tell the truth.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:27:08 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Melissa (POM) : Goodnight Lyn and Adam!!! Thanks for coming!! Adam, you have been an immense help!! Please come visit again!! Like I said before, someone is almost always here to chat with!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:24:58 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lynn from NJ: Funny though... My other daughter has asthma. And whenever I get the "Why Me" whine from her, all I have to do is ask her if she'd rather give herself injections every day. Shuts her right up. Hey, you gotta use what you've got with these kids sometimes :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:23:35 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com CAM: Goodnight everyone. Thank you for all of the good information. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:23:20 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Laurie: I guess I'm gonna call it a nite too!!! Melissa love the room and I checked out Home Medical Supply and it looks like they have something we all can use. I e-mailed for info from them today!! Good nite all and thanks for all the info. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:23:02 (EST) - mast6.ainop.com SFN: G'night Beth.... Donald....that can get pretty scarry.... I was enormously impresses when I met STAR a week or so ago and she talked about her little girl having a seizure due to being LOW... I was amazed at how much the parents of diabetic children are coping with in the home... it is just fantastic.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:22:42 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Sue from Ma: Bye everyone, see you on this chat or parents chat. Ben on this for 1 1/2 hrs and sleep is next. Good luck to all. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:22:31 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Melissa (POM) : Laurie I'm not leaving!! Hi Donald! It's good to see you again!! Night Chris!! Thank you for coming!! Please drop in whenever you like!! Adam, thank you so much!! I'll only be sending her for one week but I'll see if I can get the first session!! she'll be so excited to know that she could actually meet someone from the net!! LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:22:18 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Carla: Bye adam Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:22:17 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Lynn from NJ: Night, Lyn and Adam. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:21:52 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Lynn from NJ: Sue and Beth, that's when you tell them that if you could take it all away and have it yourself, you would... And there are those times when Karisa (my daughter) whines the "Why Me" whine... That's difficult. Fortunately, I don't hear that too often. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:21:35 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Adam: Thanks for a great room. My first time here and I enjoyed it. Bye for now Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:21:12 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Sue from Ma: Beth-you don't do nearly as much of it, maybe only once or twice. A little while ago, Lauren was doing a shot and she almost started crying it hurt so much and then there was a big lump and that's when I wanted to cry for her. Just make it go away. !! Bye Lyn Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:20:06 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lynn from NJ: Sue, agreed. I shall do that. My daughter really, really wants to go back. There are no children around here at all with diabetes. She is the token in the school system! So it's good for her to be around others who can reinforce. And that's just what happened. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:19:50 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Adam: 2 Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:19:22 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Nite Lyn Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:19:19 (EST) - mast6.ainop.com Debbie: Goodnight Lyn! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:18:38 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Laurie: SFN At Camp CareFree in NH there were 14 kids to a cabin 2 counselors and one CIT per cabin. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:18:14 (EST) - mast6.ainop.com Lynn from NJ: Beth, how old is the child? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:18:07 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Adam: 7 Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:18:05 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Debbie: Joslin is supposed to have a ratio of three campers per counselor. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:18:00 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Lynn-i remember that conversation too and I kept saying, she's not very active but I ended up being wrong, she did lots of running. If she goes to camp again, I would stress what happened the last time and that you appreciate lower readings. There is a happy medium between a low and 300's Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:17:53 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lyn: Thanks folks...got some really fantastic information here tonight. Goodnight :) Really appreciate your doing this Melissa!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:17:48 (EST) - 172-162-244.ipt.aol.com SFN: Sorry POM... guess when I put this room in a smaller window it excluded that part of the room... I certainly will check those links out.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:17:14 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Melissa (POM) : Good night Beth!! I'm glad you were able to come!! LOL Lyn!! I remember the ONE orange I injected about BENT the needle!! hehehe It was easier to do Kristina!! But my hands were shaking like crazy!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:17:05 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lynn from NJ: SFN... I can't remember the number of "cabins," but there were eight kids and two counselors in each cabin. Donald: I have been very lucky. So far, only two severe lows in over six years. And those were dreadful. I feel for you. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:16:52 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Beth: Oh yuck Sue - I saw that post. You mean I've got years of crying yet????? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:16:08 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Donald: Hello Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:15:48 (EST) - valleyonline.com Adam: Melissa, I can only tell you that Camp Sweeney keeps the kids going from morning to night. They have so many activities for the children to choose from along with classes for improving their knowledge that Kristina will forget about being away so long. It's really helpful that she will be around other children of her own age group along with the many staff members and counselors. Michelle's cabin usually has 20 girls with 4 counselors. We also told Michelle that if she really hated camp, she was to tell her counselor and have them call us and we would pick her up and still paid. And like I said earlier, she only could say I don't want to leave and how soon can I come back. Kristina will have a great time. If you do send her, I'd be curious to know which session she attend since Michelle will be going to the first session again. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:15:20 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Nite Beth and Melissa Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:14:57 (EST) - mast6.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Lynn-your right , the good with the bad. You didn't mention the crying in the hospital and again at home for weeks/months and yes years later sometimes. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:14:46 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lynn from NJ: When they take that comprehensive information we give them before the children enter camp, it seems to me they ought to pay more attention to which child is usually active and which one is not. My daughter is (unfortunately) not terribly active, and that continued throughout the camping week. When they see that, and it is reflected in the numbers... I don't know. I guess I wouldn't want the responsibility of a child with a dangerous low, either. Guess it's for the best. I didn't see it that way then, though. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:14:43 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Chris from NE: Time for me to sign off. Melissa, thank you for adding me to the list! Adam, thanks for the letter, I will pass it along. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:14:30 (EST) - 207.49.224.119 Donald: LYN... My wife is a diabetic... she has had severe reactions in the evenings in the past so much so..had to call the ambulance. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:14:26 (EST) - valleyonline.com Melissa (POM) : Adam, I got it!! Thank you so much!! I'll send it to EVERYONE!!! LOL I counted how many names I have in my address book today that I regularly email to about these forums!!! It came to 348!!!! I add new ones almost every day!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:14:12 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 SFN: Lynn I guess you are right about the good with the bad.... How many campers are there per session... and what is the camper to counselor ratio... again... just curious.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:12:58 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Debbie: Goodnight Beth! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:12:44 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Goodnight Melissa SFN-Clara is in Oxford Mass and joslin is right near it. Lynn-i rememer them doing that too, adjusting down for I don't remember it being a constant problem. Maybe it was but I was so glad to see her, she was happy, smiling and having fun that that was all I needed to see at that time. I know they were checked all the time. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:12:05 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lynn from NJ: Goodnight, Beth. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:12:04 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Beth: Think I'll head out. Thanks Melissa. Your room looks nice! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:11:32 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Lynn from NJ: Beth, you poor thing. I remember that awful hospital stay myself... 8 days of confusion, information, consoling, (sleeplessness), injecting oranges :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:10:59 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Melissa (POM) : Wow Lynn!! That's pretty high!! SFN and everyone else.... Please be sure to click on the links I had put up next to the message box!! The first one is the one with the extensive listing of camps by state! Just click on your state and it'll list the camps for you!! Camp and Sleepovers was a really great article I found and Diabetes Connction Summer Adventure Camp sounds like alot of fun!! Someone asked about the midwest.... If I remember right, this one is a midwestern one!!! These were pretty much the only really good sites I could find!! There were lots of sites for SPECIFIC camps, but they are all listed in that first link!! Be sure to look at them when you have a moment!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:10:41 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lori: Jarrod really wants to go. I don't think he will get homesick at all. I will be the one with the problem. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:10:04 (EST) - will_18s.citynet.net Carla: Thanks for the letter Adam Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:09:33 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Beth: It wasn't easy Sue. I cried most of the way home. But at that point I figured they knew more than I did and after having her in the hospital for 8 days I was ready for a break! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:08:34 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Debbie: SFN, The Disney Institute in Orlando will be running diabetes education sessions for both adults and children. It sounds like a great place to go!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:07:33 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Lynn from NJ: And two weeks after my daughter came back from camp, she dissuaded my dissillusions. She began injecting herself for the first time in four years with the disease. Guess you've gotta take the good with the bad ;) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:07:04 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Sue from Ma: Beth-I couldn't do that. I was still calling the doctor on a nightly basis i think !! Debbie- I would highly recommend doing a weekend this spring. They do small group based on the childrens ages and the whole family goes. I met people from NY here, some drove 5hrs. We went over to Joslin to look at it, walked around it etc. They were very helpful. Maybe you don't do camp this year until you do a weekend? Show your son what it's about! Lori-at our camp, the DR stays on the grounds plus there was a nurse. It there is a real problem, they would call you Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:07:03 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lori: Lynn- We had the same problem when Jarrod went on an overnight with the diabetes youth group. They let them eat all kinds of stuff. He was 300 all weekend. It took awhile to get him back to normal. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:06:44 (EST) - will_18s.citynet.net Adam: Laurie and Melissa, I've sent a copy out to you. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:06:22 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Melissa (POM) : Lynn, I've heard nothing but good things all night!! Lori, I'm sure that if there was an emergency, camp would be about the best place to be!!! They probably catch it sooner than you would at home or at school!! I think I worry about the homesickness more!! Someone said it took about 10 days for the homesickness to pass! So how well do the kids do at a one week camp??? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:05:54 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lynn from NJ: When I asked the endo on staff about it, she told me that they liked to adjust the insulin down at camp, for fear of lows. I can understand that, but there was not a single reading under 250 the whole entire week. Don't you think they could re-adjust according to each individual? Sheesh. I was very unhappy. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:05:51 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Debbie: CAM you should look at the listing in Castleweb(Children with Diabetes) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:05:20 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Lynn from NJ: Sue, the problem I had was that I thought everything would be just wonderful. A whole camp full of diabetes professionals... the counselors all Type 1's... but when I got there at the end of that long week I found that they changed al of her dosages... right from the first day! She was in the high 300's the WHOLE time. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:04:19 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com SFN: Just curious... where are the Clara Barton and Joselyn Camps... what state...???? and is there a list of camps somewhere that tells which are diabetic camps.... and has anyone heard of doing this type of thing for adults that have Type II.... sometimes think that my Adult patients could benifit from the interaction and the education..... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:04:04 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net CAM: We live in NEPa. Does anyone know if there is a family camp within driving distance? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:03:29 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Debbie: Lynn, I'm in the city. The Bronx to be exact. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:03:28 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Melissa (POM) : Bye Robynn and Sue!! I'm so glad you could make it tonight!! Be sure to stop by anytime!! Someone is almost always here to chat with!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:02:44 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lynn from NJ: Debbie, there's one in northwestern NJ, too... Depends upon where you are in NY. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:02:32 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Sue from Ma: Bye Sue Lynn-I thought at CBC, they were very conscientious about care and documented everything. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:01:58 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lori: It seems that alot of you are far away. Most of the kids from near here go to WV camp which is over 4 hrs. I guess I just worry about emergencies. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:01:39 (EST) - will_18s.citynet.net Debbie: Not that I'm aware of Sue from MA. The only one I've seen in NY is in Rochester and that's about an 8 hour drive! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:01:33 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Some of you have a long way to go to get to a camp !!!!!!!!!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:00:43 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Beth: We're 5 hours away from Sara's and I sent her two weeks after she was diagnosed last year! Talk about nervous!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:00:35 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Melissa (POM) : I think we're 2 to 2 1/2 hours away from Camp Sweeney!! We've sent Kristina on many sleep overs with her grandparents but I wonder how she'd do in a strange place, for so long!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 22:00:23 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Sue: Bye Robyn...I have to sign off also...this has been great. Thank you Melissa Hope to chat again with you soon, Sue from ma Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:59:53 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Sue from Ma: Debbie, is there one closer to you? Bye robynn and david Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:59:47 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Laurie: Nite Robynn and David Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:59:33 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Lynn from NJ: I know I probably missed the bulk of the conversation by now, but did anyone address concerns about the diabetes care received at camp? Anyone dissatisfied? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:57 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com SFN: Hello Lynn.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:40 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Lyn: Lori, we'll be 6 hrs away..:( Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:37 (EST) - 172-162-244.ipt.aol.com Carla: lori we live about 2 hours away but the camp we go to will let the whole family go with.. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:27 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Debbie: TJ is seven also Lori. I believe that both Joslin and Clara Barton are run by the same people. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:25 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Cam-try to get out to the camp to visit and do a weekend program if they have one. It will make you more comfortable. Lori-camp for us is 1 and 1/2 hrs away. Have you visited the camp? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:04 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Sue: Sending our daughter to camp was the best thing we did for her ( and for us)..a break is what we all need from the day to day, and we are very comfortable with her at camp. I would not feel that way unless it was a camp for diabetics though Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:58:00 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Robynn & David: Sorry we can't stay - perhaps we will catch up again soon BYE Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:57:46 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Melissa (POM) : Hi Lynn!! Good to see you!! (((HUGS))) I just LOVE getting email from you!!! hehehehe Adam, what age does Camp Sweeney start at?? I can't remember if it was 6 or 8! I had always planned on waiting till Kristina was 8 but she'll be 7 in May, so I'm seriously considering sending her for the week! She is sooo excited about going to camp!! But neither of us know what to expect!! So I hesitate........ Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:57:42 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Adam: Carla, check you e-mail Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:57:19 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Lynn from NJ: Camp is two hours away here. And sending an 8 yr-old was not easy. Probably the most difficult thing I've ever done. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:56:57 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Laurie: Lori the one Ryan went to was about 8 hours away Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:56:52 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Debbie: It's hard too because we are in NYC and Joslin is pretty far away I think. At least a four hour drive. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:56:49 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Sorry Debbie-you have a little boy. Joslin does many of the same things. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:56:08 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Sue: Clara Barton has been bulding new sits, and fixing the older ones. The Lions Clubs in the area are very active in CBC, donates time money, muscle, and building supplies. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:56:04 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Lori: How far are most of you from camp? The closest for us is over 3 hours . I'm unsure about sending a 7 year old that far away. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:55:44 (EST) - will_18s.citynet.net Debbie: I do plan on going if I can. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:55:09 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Laurie: Adam that addy is LANewell@aol.com Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:54:39 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com CAM: Debbie-I had a hard time sending my older son to basketball camp! I'm sure we'll deal with it. Michael is also looking foreward to going. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:53:31 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Sue from Ma: Debbie- I haven't been back there for a couple of years but it was nice, small and neat. They were building some new big cabins for the big girls a few years ago and the camp sits around a pond. They run different types of weekends there all fall, spring and I think winter. We had been to several which I'm sure helped Lauren feel comfortable. Try to go to clean up day May31st. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:53:29 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Melissa (POM) : Wow Adam!! If you'd like, send a copy of that letter to me and I'll see to it that everyone gets a copy of it!! You can email me using the link above! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:53:24 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Robynn & David: We feel that as the camps here are run by diabetes professionals and we do not need to worry at all - it is great to be able to relax and forget diabetes for even a short time. The camps here used to be a week long, now they are a long weekend - what duration are your camps? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:53:16 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Laurie: Adam please add me too!! LANewellAaol.com Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:52:44 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com SFN: Hi Cheryl..... Come sit by me and we can LISTEN together....hehehehe.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:52:33 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Debbie: Thanks Sue. TJ is a very friendly little boy so I'm sure the proble, will be all mine! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:52:31 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Lynn from NJ: Hello, Melissa... sorry I'm late :) Hi, all. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:52:27 (EST) - sl-ppp154.monmouth.com Robynn & David: Megan attended her first camp at age 5, and we were a little concerned that she would not like being with so many strangers, so we arranged for her sister to attend also. Because of the age gap between then, the girls were split up for all activities - boy did that backfire. But Megan's response was that she didn't miss us, she had too much fun and no Leona didn't need to go with her again. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:51:32 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Sue: Thanks for the help tips on viewing...my computer gets funny sometimes! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:51:07 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Sue from Ma: DEbbie-there was such an extensive first day at camp, meeting with the Dr, councelors, cooks, setting up beds etc. that I really felt like everything she needed was there. Lauren was social and latched on to another little girl and the councelors take right over. I felt comfortable. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:50:37 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Sue: At CBC you can call the couselors (usually at meal times), but not the child Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:50:25 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Debbie: It sounds like it will be a long week without contact! I wonder if I can deal with that!!!TJ is looking forward to going. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:50:12 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Melissa (POM) : What a great idea Chris!!! I'll look for one!! I'm sure it would be easy to get the doc to write it!! We're so close to Camp Sweeney here in TX, plus several others, that most people in the doc's office plan to participate at some time or another this summer!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:50:12 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Adam: CAM, some camps will let you visit but they are very concerned about causing homesickness. Camp Sweeney let us come up last year but they would like parents to wait until 10 days before coming up. They found that it takes about 10 days for the children to get over their homesickness and then they truly enjoy the camp. Each year we always hear "I don't want to leave camp" It's great to hear that after Michelle's been gone for the 3 weeks. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:49:57 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Carla: adam please send me a letter too my e-mail is kcgillins@sisna.com Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:49:47 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Chris from NE: Adam, that would be great! I'm sure the parent's I work with would appreciate it. My E-mail is buzzst@kearney.net Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:49:12 (EST) - 207.49.224.119 Debbie: Sue, are the grounds nice at Clara Barton/Joslin? We haven't been to visit yet? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:48:30 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Adam-can I get that too??? My E-mail FKramer116@aol.com Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:48:23 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Beth: We weren't allowed to call Sara. And she couldn't call home. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:48:18 (EST) - tty107.pld.com CAM: Adam-I would also like a copy of that letter, if possible. tcekm@epix.net Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:48:02 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Sue from Ma: Sue-did you extend your window? Debbie-no they don't want you to nor have the kids call you. Real tough. The councelor wrote us a letter thou Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:47:32 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Adam: Chris, If you like I can send you an e-mail with the letter that I use with our doctor for the insurance. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:46:34 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Debbie: Sue can you call? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:46:13 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: CAM-at CBC, you can't visit. Once you say goodbye, that's it until the camp fire on the last night. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:45:45 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Sue: I seem to be unable to view messages, am I doing something wrong? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:44:55 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Adam: 1 Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:44:55 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Chris from NE: Melissa- I haven't heard of it but it makes a lot of sense. Most docs will write a letter of medical necessity, If you can get an example of a letter, it might be helpful to post it somewhere (why reinvent the wheel). Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:44:30 (EST) - 207.49.224.119 CAM: I wanted to say that you all seem so positive about camp. I guess it REALLY is a good idea. I will worry so much. Do you visit during the week or is it better to stay away? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:43:52 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Debbie: Joslin also has something called a "Workathon" on Sunday May 31st where you can work off part of the camp fees. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:43:31 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Adam: . Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:43:14 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Robynn & David: Thanks Sue, somehow I don't think our health insurance companies would consider that they should contribute Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:42:53 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Sue from Ma: Hi Cheryl Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:42:39 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Adam: , Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:41:53 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Melissa (POM) : Wow!! Hello to everyone who just came in!! What a wonderful turn out and so many great tips and ideas!! Be sure to keep in mind that if the room goes down, we're all heading to http://www.nursingnet.org/cgi-bin/nursgnt/chat2.cgi Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:41:51 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 CAM: It sounds as Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:41:23 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Debbie: Laurie, I imagine that they do. I have TJ's application all ready. I just need to get a medical form filled out to send with it ( the insurance one) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:41:16 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Hi Jim... My daugther was chatting on the teen line the other week and crossed paths with another girl her age going to Clara Barton same session. Now they e-mail regularly and have someone to look for on the first day. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:40:58 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Chris from NE: Melissa- I haven't heard of it but it makes a lot of sense. One thing I've learned about insurance companies is that it never hurts to try, you just never know. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:40:58 (EST) - 207.49.224.119 Sue: If the camp is strictly for the purposes of a medical condition...our insurance companies will sometimes pay for the camp. Let's face it, camps that are run for just diabetic children are usually very helpful with their learning self care, and it will save ithe ins. co. $ in the long run Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:40:58 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Laurie: Adam that is so true Ryan thought he was the only diabetic in the whole world until he went to camp. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:40:53 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Adam: . Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:40:09 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Thank you Debbie I'll call tomorrow. Do they fill up quickly??? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:39:28 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Lori: Hi all! Sorry I'm late. Anyone have any experience with Ohio camps. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:39:26 (EST) - will_18s.citynet.net Sue from Ma: Hi Cheryl Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:39:07 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Robynn & David: What does an insurance company have to do with camp attendance? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:38:22 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Adam: I agree about the "holiday" and Michelle loves to come home and quiz us on all the things she has learned. She has taken alot of pride when she knows more than we do. It has also helped here realize that there are alot of other kids out there that go thru the same problems and frustrations she goes thru. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:38:09 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Hi Vickie Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:37:56 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Jim: Hi -- Just got here I am in Charleston SC Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:37:50 (EST) - chs0151.awod.com Sue from Ma: Debbie-forget that question.Sorry Sue-we live in Randolph, 12 miles south of Boston. Robynn & David-yes it is a holiday, a vacation. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:37:22 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Debbie: Laurie it states that no child should be denied camp because of financial need. I'm sure they would help a family with two diabetics. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:37:20 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net SFN: That was a good tip brom Barb.. gonna have to remember that one.... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:36:58 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Sue from Ma: Debbie-forget that question.Sorry Sue-we live in Randolph, 12 miles south of Boston. Robynn & David-yes it is a holiday, a vacation. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:36:55 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Melissa (POM) : Hi Chris!! I had thought you were from Utah when I had written to you!! Sorry about that!! I'm so glad you could make it though!! I'm wondering,..... is it common for doctors to write prescriptions or letters of medical neccesity for kids to go to camp so their insurance will pay for it???? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:36:55 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Laurie: Hi Cheryl Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:36:52 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Vicki: Hi, from Vicki in Iowa. Our Melissa was at Daypoint and Needlepoint one summer each (Minnesota camp) , then she said she got bored. Any other Midwest Suggestions? She's been doing well at the area Girl Scout Camp the last two years, and is trying a leadership camp this summer. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:36:36 (EST) - ossian-1.dialup.means.net Robynn & David: The camps have been an essential learning time for Megan, who tends to disbelieve anything we tell her - it is better coming from someone else. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:36:26 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Adam: Melissa, If you contact Camp Sweeney, they will send you all the information including a copy of the letters that you have your doctor send to the insurance company on their letterhead. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:35:41 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Debbie group rates for more than one diabetic??? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:35:21 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Cheryl (in Kansas): Hi! I am a RN who runs through the VirturalNurse chats. I work in a hosp on a unit that specialized in Diabeties/Heart/Kidneys - Adults only! I spent some time in Castleweb last night and learned many things - hoping to learn much tonight too! Just going to sit back and listen also! *smile* Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:35:20 (EST) - mark423.fn.net Sue from Ma: Laurie-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:35:17 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Margaret: I haven't gone, still here! Dennis will be going on his first diabetes camp in two weeks time. He has just been on a school camp, so we've done things the other way around. The teachers were supportive on the school camp and it went well. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:35:13 (EST) - t is an essential 'holiday' for us. Just curious - how long do the camps run for in USA Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:34:53 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Sue: Sue from MA...we live in Stafford Springs, CT..where are you ? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:34:48 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Sue from Ma: Debbie-Are you sure it stars June 28? Hi Robynn and David Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:34:41 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Mark: Mary Beth: If your daughter observes other kids doing their own diabetic care... she may get a little more fortitude to do her own care!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:34:18 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net CAM: My son may come home knowing more than me!If they could help him manage his lows it would be great! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:34:06 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Laurie: Sue from MA I think Patrick might like going to CBC but, I don't think they would let him. hehehe LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:33:52 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Hi Chris-I would Love a day camp !! Sue-where do you live?? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:33:36 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Robynn & David: Hi to everyone from Australia Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:33:27 (EST) - cephalod.senet.com.au Debbie: Joslin has 7 sessions running from June 28th to August 23rd. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:33:26 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Adam: Sorry about the blanks but the talk button keeps sending me to an old message area. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:33:20 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Melissa (POM) : Adam, what a great idea about the letter of medical neccesity!! That is great!! We'll have to try that! We sent Kristina to Camp Aurora a couple years ago! She loved it!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:33:03 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Sue from Ma: Sorry- it is 4 plus they have a councelor in training program Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:32:43 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Laurie: Thank you Sue, Sue and Debbie Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:32:32 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Lyn: Hi SFN! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:31:55 (EST) - 172-162-244.ipt.aol.com Chris from NE: Hello all, hope no one minds if I lurk a bit. I am a CDE in Central Nebraska. We have started a day camp for kids ages 6-12. It helps to have the parents' perspective ! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:31:48 (EST) - 207.49.224.119 Sue from Ma: CBC runs 3 starting Jun22. Joslin, i don't know. Come on down to CBC Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:31:23 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Mary Beth from VT.: Laurie: I am just starting to look into camps. Sara is not sure she wants to go unless I can go with her. I think camp would do her a world of good. She still will not even try to give herself a shot. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:31:17 (EST) - pm1a13.bratt.sover.net Debbie: Lauie the phone number is 617-732-2455. If you call they will send an application and information about the camp. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:30:52 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue: CBC has 4 sessions I believe...runds from late June to mid August Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:30:48 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Laurie: Nite Barb Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:30:25 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Adam: Our insurance won't pay for the dietician but they have been great with the camp. I can tell you they have made money off it because Michelle always comes back with better controls. The last 2 years we have not had any real problems with her lows since she has learned what to do when she feels low and how to take care of herself Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:30:25 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com SFN: Hello..... it is standing room only POM.... had a hard time gettin' in the door.... Hi Tom Long time no chat.... hope everything in your neck of th woods is just "hunky dorie".. For those that do not know me .. and there are several here that I do not know... I am called SFN... I am single mother of Teenagers in California... and an RN friend of Melissa's....(we actually met in San Jose last week) I just happen to have been a Camp Nurse for Developmentally Disabled Adults..for three summers in 1989 to 1991....... ... they weren't diabetics.. but they were KIDS at CAMP....hehehehehe....Actually come to think if it there were a few diabetics that I assisted with taking blood sugars for ... and gave their AM insulin... Hello to everyone.... i think I will just sit back for a bit.... and LISTEN..... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:30:09 (EST) - filter-vol.nortel.net Lyn: Good night Barb...thanks for sharing camp info with us!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:29:58 (EST) - 172-162-244.ipt.aol.com Laurie: Camp CareFree only runs one session how many does CBC and the Joslin run? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:29:50 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Laurie-you can call ADA or Jy, April 03, 1997 at 21:29:15 (EST) - hlfx13-16.ns.sympatico.ca Mark: Great tip Barb!! :-) Thanks! Good Night! Thanks for comming! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:28:32 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Lyn: Hi Margaret. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:57 (EST) - 172-162-244.ipt.aol.com Debbie: Laurie I have the info on Joslin. I'll go get it. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:53 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Adam: We do the same thing as Barb, but we also hide a few surprises in Michelle's trunk and them send a few small surprises in the mail also. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:51 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Sue from Ma: Laurie-you can call ADA or JDF and yes, they are neightbors. The girls and boys have a dance together. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:42 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Laurie: Thank you Sue Hi Margaret Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:42 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Melissa (POM) : Barb, sounds like you have the BEST rate so far!! That is GREAT!!! Beth!!! I'm so glad you made it!! LOL! Yea, Tom!! This has become the best support group in the world for me! Pam, it's easy! Just type in a message, click on talk and then read from the bottom up! When you want to update the screen, click on talk again!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:26 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 CAM: Our insurance won't even pay for the dietitian,says it is not a necessity. I doubt they'll pay for camp.I will try though. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:23 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Lyn: Great suggestion Barb, thanks! Yes Laurie! :) LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:27:07 (EST) - 172-162-244.ipt.aol.com Sue: In fact, the two camps do get together (Joslin & CBC) for dances a couple of times each session. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:26:58 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Debbie: I hadn't thought of getting the endo to write a prescription for camp. That's a good idea. I'll try it. When I spoke to the people at Joslin, they were very encouraging about filling out the form for a "campership". They said they consider many things when they offer finanical aid. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:26:55 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Laurie: Mary Beth have you checked out Canp CareFree in NH? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:26:36 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Margaret: Hi! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:26:08 (EST) - myeah.connect.com.au Adam: Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:26:05 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Sue from Ma: Lauren is now almost 12. She was Dx'ed in feb 92 and I sent her to camp for two weeks that summer. She did great and on the last days of camp, she started doing her own shots and I have done maybe five in the last five years. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:25:58 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Barb from Nova Scotia: Just a tip before I go to bed, it is 11:30 here, it is a good idea to start mailing letters to your child a few days before they actually go to camp. They will receive the letters during the day at mail call and it makes them feel good. I will be sending one for each day. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:25:55 (EST) - hlfx13-16.ns.sympatico.ca Cassie: Terry in Al. have you been to Seale-Harris? If so what did you think of it? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:25:48 (EST) - www-at7.proxy.aol.com Sue: Joslin (for boys) is right up the road apiece" from CBC...don't have the address off hand, but CBC could give it to you Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:25:40 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Laurie: Anyone want to sponser two kids?? Lyn do I have too??? LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:25:37 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Adam: We have Michelle's doctor send a letter referring her to the camp as a medical necessity to help her improve control, thereby decreasing the potential incidence and severity of complications Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:24:18 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Sue yes both of you!! CBC is just for girls correct? How can I get info on the boys camp? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:24:01 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Sue-thanks for the thought. I'll call them tomorrow. Anyone who wants to pay for camp is welcome !!!LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:23:55 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lyn: Thanks Sue from Ma. Laurie..behave yourself dear :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:23:46 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Beth: Don't I wish??!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:23:35 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Mary Beth from VT.: Sue: How old is Lauren? Sara will be 7 in May and I was thinking of sending her to Clara Barton Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:23:30 (EST) - pm1a13.bratt.sover.net Laurie: Beth Darling I'm so happy your home but, supper is all dried out. I've only been trying to keep it hot for hours!!! Did you stop at the bar on the way home??? LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:22:26 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Lyn-just tell them at camp about the ketones and if it's like Clara Barton, they will watch it. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:22:15 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Sue: Not all HMO's will pay. Mine is Kaiser, one year they did, one they didn't...and they won't pay for the weekends the camp runs throughout the year. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:22:06 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Beth: Have I missed out on alot?? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:21:56 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Adam: We have also sent Michelle to a day camp called Camp Horizon. It was only one week and just 6 hours a day but it helped her see what camp was about. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:21:18 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Terry in Alabama: Cassie in AL - Camps vary in the age of the children they serve. In Alabama, we have a preschool camp for children birth - k & their families in early june. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:21:07 (EST) - www-ao7.proxy.aol.com Lyn: LOL...good to see you Beth! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:20:45 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Laurie: Lyn there were a couple of times he showed keytones. Hi Pam Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:20:37 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Melissa (POM) : WOW!!! Insurance will pay for CAMP???? I don't believe I've ever heard that before!! How wonderful!!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:20:26 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Sue from Ma: Sue-I have an HMO, will they cover Clara Barton. Laurie-I lost all kinds of messages while I was having trouble. Lauren is going to Clara barton 1st session this year and looking forward to it Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:20:16 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Beth: Hi Honey! I'm home!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:19:57 (EST) - tty107.pld.com Barb from Nova Scotia: At our camp in Nova Scotia, the kids usually come home with lots of little gifts from corporate sponsors They like that part. Also, the Canadian Diabetes Assoc charges $125.00 for a weeklong camp, with monetary assistance for low income parents. We are pretty lucky. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:19:44 (EST) - hlfx13-16.ns.sympatico.ca Adam: Camp Sweeney is in Northern Texas, and they accept children from anywhere in Texas and from out of state. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:19:40 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Tom (Westland, MI): No Problem Melissa. You certainly have a lot of support here.. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:19:01 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Pam: Hi Everyone! This is the first forum I've actually been involved in, so I made need help with the technical part. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:18:45 (EST) - ppp16.centex.net Lyn: Laurie, that's a concern of mine since Jessica can show keytones so quickly when running high! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:18:43 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Carla: It sounds good and for my two older kids that don't have diabetes they also have activites for them to and to learn about it. And its only $30. per person Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:18:39 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Adam: Michelle was very nervous about being gone for 3 weeks (She was only 6), but once she got there, she didn't want to leave. The staff kept her busy all the time and after the 1st week, she wasn't homesick or anything. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:18:30 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Sue: At CBC, the doctor usually cuts the dosage of the kids, as they do try to prevent lows, at all times...they do speak to partents about it first of course. Becca ran low at first, the the mid to high range Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:18:16 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Melissa (POM) : By the way Tom, it's good to see you!! Sorry I missed you today!! Just HAD to have a nap!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:17:51 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Lyn: Thank you Barb..that's what I've heard before.. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:17:41 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Sue from Ma: I'm having trouble with my connection....be back Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:17:30 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Laurie: Lyn Ryan's levels bounced but they adjusted his insulin alot!! Mostly lowering his dose. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:17:16 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Clara Barton runs about 1200 for approx. 2wks Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:16:49 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com CAM: Where is Camp Sweeney? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:16:23 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Sue: Insurance will also pay for Clara Barton...you need to check with your carrier, and usually have the doctor witre the camp as a prescription Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:16:19 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Barb from Nova Scotia: Sugars at camp, here at least, were run high to prevent the worry of lows with all the activity. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:16:11 (EST) - hlfx13-16.ns.sympatico.ca Adam: They offer a "mini-session" that is one week for $450. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:16:06 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Carla that sounds great. It must get the young kids use to going to camp. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:15:48 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Cassie: Hi Everyone..:) Cassie here in AL. What's the avg. age for starting camp? Alexandra is only three. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:15:41 (EST) - www-ak7.proxy.aol.com Lyn: Those who have had kids at camp before..how were your child's bgs readings while at camp....running higher or lower than usual? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:15:25 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Adam: Last year after insurance, we only paid $400 for the 3 weeks. 2 years before that, they help us with tuition and we only had to pay $250 Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:14:58 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Hi Barb Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:14:39 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Melissa (POM) : Whoops! You answered before I asked!! Do you know if there's a reduced rate for only one week Adam? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:14:22 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Carla: Camp here in Utah and for 0 to 6 year old kids and three days long and the whole family gets to go.. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:14:22 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Barb from Nova Scotia: Hi everyone, Sorry to join late, I was at a support meeting and I just wanted to drop in quickly. My daughter Erica went to camp for the first time at 8 yrs of age last summer. She found it lonely at times, but after looking at pictures the counsellors took, she decided she would go back this year. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:13:50 (EST) - hlfx13-16.ns.sympatico.ca Sue: yes, CBC checks the kids at night Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:13:36 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Laurie: What is the Joslin's boys camp? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:13:21 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Melissa (POM) : Adam, we're thinking of sending Kristina to Camp Sweeney!! I missed our support group meeting though this week and missed out on all the info!!!! What is the cost? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:13:15 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Adam: Camp Sweeney runs about $1350 for the 3 weeks which includes the medical supplies. They offer tuition assistance. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:12:56 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Carla what camp are you looking into? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:12:25 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue: No, I am from CT..and yes Clara Barton is in Mass, and a sister to Joslin Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:12:19 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com CAM: Do they usually check the kids bs during the night? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:12:04 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Debbie: Joslin does offer scholarships but I wonder if we would qualify. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:12:02 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: Laurie-i thought you were but I wasn't sure. Yes Lauren goes to Clara Barton and is going this summer first session. It is expensive but Worth it. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:11:31 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Laurie: So both Sue's are you both from MA? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:11:17 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Carla: Sence my child was just dx in feburary I thought we would try out the camp and just mailed it today and been asking people if they have been there just to find out what it is like so sence some people have been there what is it like... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:11:04 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Adam: Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:10:45 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Carla: Sence my child was just dx in feburary I thought we would try out the camp and just mailed it today and been asking people if they have been there just to find out what it is like so sence some people have been there what is it like... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:10:21 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Debbie: I think Clara Barton is the sister camp for the Joslin camp in Mass.? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:56 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Laurie: camp Carefree in NH is $725. for two weeks Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:45 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Melissa (POM) : I've just been writing down the names of who all is here! What a turn out already!! Everyone be sure to bookmark our alternate site and we'll just go straight there if this room goes down for some reason!! http://www.nursingnet.org/cgi-bin/nursgnt/chat2.cgi Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:29 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Sue: Included in the price for Clara Barton are all meds, and supplies. They have several full time nurses, and aa full time doctor for all sessions. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:19 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Lyn: Debbie, the camp here in NC says all children with diabetes are welcome, regardless of ability to pay... Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:15 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Laurie: Hi Carla and Adam Sue from MA I was asking you. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:10 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com CAM: The camp we are looking at is $325 for one week. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:08 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Sue from Ma: Clara Barton runs about 1200 for approx. 2wks Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:09:07 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Adam: My daughter has been attending Camp Sweeney for the last 3 years. It's 3 weeks of camping and fun. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:08:25 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Sue: Yes, she does Clara Barton...they are about $1200 for the 12 or 13 days, and YES, they offer scholarships. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:08:09 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Laurie: Ryan's first year I worried all the time but, he loved it!! Couldn't wait to go back. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:07:49 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Laurie are you talking to me or the other Sue? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:07:28 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Debbie: The camp our endo reccommended is very expensive. 625 dollars per week. Is this the going rate for a diabetes camp? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:07:10 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Carla: Hello I'm here to listen and learn . Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:07:03 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Adam: Hi, is there anyone here tonight? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:06:59 (EST) - dal-tx15-12.ix.netcom.com Sue: My daughter isd in bed, but she wanted me to strongly suggest that kids go to camp. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:06:54 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Laurie: Sue she goes to Clara Barton? What was the cost and do they offer scholarships? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:06:10 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Debbie: We are thinking of sending our seven year old son for one week. It would be his first time. He was diagnosed at 3. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:05:36 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Lyn: Jessica is supposed to go in Aug, but is balking now..:( Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:05:34 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Sue: Becca went the full 12 days the first time...hardest time I ever had, but SHE loved it! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:05:26 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Tom (Westland, MI): Hi Laurie.. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:05:22 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Sue from Ma: We have a Sue and a Sue from Ma on here now. My daughter has been once Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:05:15 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Tom (Westland, MI): Happy to be here Melissa! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:05:01 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Hi Tom Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:04:52 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com CAM: This will be my son's first year at camp. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:04:36 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Melissa (POM) : WOW!!! It's sooo good to see everyone!! You guys blow me away!! hehehehehe Thanks so much for coming!!!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:04:18 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Laurie: Ryan's gone the past two years Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:04:10 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Debbie: How long did she go for the first time Sue? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:04:05 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Lyn: Sue, how old was your child when he/she went? We have Jessica 7 years old, dxd at 15 months, I'm grandma. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:04:04 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Mark: Hi Lyn, and laurie and everyone!!! Looks like a great crowd!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:03:52 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net Tom (Westland, MI): Hi Lyn!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:03:41 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Sue: My daughter is 13, has been 3 times now...with a few weekends...she was diagnosed at 4, went to camp the first time at 8 Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:03:28 (EST) - ip-ts2-154.neca.com Lyn: Hi Melissa!! :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:03:13 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Tom (Westland, MI): i'm just an interested bystander.. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:03:00 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Lyn: Hi Tom and Mark. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:02:45 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Sue from Ma: I have Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:02:22 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Tom (Westland, MI): Hi there Melissa. How are ya doing?? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:02:11 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Hi Melissa Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:02:05 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Lyn: How many of you already here have had a child go to camp? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:01:52 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Tom (Westland, MI): Hi everyone. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:01:46 (EST) - det-mi1-16.ix.netcom.com Laurie: Hi Laura, Debbie and Mark Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:01:28 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Melissa (POM) : HI!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:01:27 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Sue from Ma: Laurie-I have to keep hitting update Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:01:25 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Carla: hello everyone Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:01:15 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Lyn: Hi Debbie! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:00:57 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Debbie: Timmy says not yet. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:00:56 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Laurie: Hi Cam sorry I missed you there. Lyn you been into diabetic kids tonite? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:00:33 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Mark: Hi Everyone!! Melissa will be on soon, she's putting the little ones to bed!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:00:31 (EST) - 047.msy4.communique.net laura from fl : Hi! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:00:28 (EST) - 140.atlanta-033.ga.dial-access.att.net Debbie: Hi! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 21:00:00 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Sue from Ma: This is my bedtime on the east coast but I thought I'd find out what these are like Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:59:56 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lyn: Hi Timmy!! Hope you got the e-mail I sent just a little while ago :) Have a good night! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:59:52 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Laurie: I hope not but when I use it here unless I post my screen doesn't up-date Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:59:24 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Hi Cam Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:59:13 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Lyn: Hi Cam and Sue! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:59:11 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Timmy: Hi Lyn! I'm off to work now, have a great night.,, Good luck on the forum Melissa! BYE Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:58:59 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Lyn: Be nice Laurie :) LOL Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:58:39 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Sue from Ma: Hi laurie and lyn. I was going to head over to that other link I got on the mail. I am not as familiar with this room. I do use AOL and it's just hard to get on at night. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:58:34 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com CAM: Hi,everyone. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:58:25 (EST) - mtrs-244ppp55.epix.net Lyn: Laurie, I'm using AOL tonight, should I expect problems?? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:58:07 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Laurie: Hello Lyn How are you tonite?? Isn't this past your bedtime? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:57:47 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: I'll try that other link. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:57:07 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Laurie: Sue do you use aol? Do you have a hard time in these rooms? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:56:55 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Lyn: Hi Folks! :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:56:32 (EST) - 169-21-208.ipt.aol.com Laurie: Sue it should be starting soon Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:56:03 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Laurie: Hello everyone Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:55:27 (EST) - mast2.ainop.com Sue from Ma: Is this where I am suppose to be for the forum? It is so quiet Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:54:35 (EST) - ww-tc07.proxy.aol.com Melissa (POM) : Click on Options, go to Network Preferences, click on Protocols at the top of the window!! There you will be able to disable the cookie thing!! Be back soon!!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:38:22 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Debbie: Hello! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:37:57 (EST) - ppp-14.ts-5.nyc.idt.net Melissa (POM) : Hi Bernadette!! I'm putting kids to bed but I'll be back in 1/2 an hour!! :-) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:36:33 (EST) - 207.22.198.58 Carla: Hello Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:36:17 (EST) - dialup4259.sisna.com Bernadette: How do I disable the darn cookie request! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:35:56 (EST) - 206.24.45.84 Bernadette: Hello all. How are you ? Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:31:49 (EST) - 206.24.45.84 Tim: Adult onset diabetes is nothing more than a manifest nutritional deficiency. Take 1mg of chromium picolinate per day while carefully monitoring blood glucose levels and call me in the morning, in about a month.P.S. cost -$12/month. Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:17:58 (EST) - ph08.tir.com Melissa (POM) : Ohhhh I wish you could be here Megan!!!! I'll try to post you addy a couple of times for people to write to you!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 20:00:43 (EST) - 207.22.198.49 Megan: OK, I'm having tons of problems with my server so I don't think it is going to happen. I really wish I could come. I have tons of feeling about this. Feel free to email if you would like my point of view or have questions that you think I can shed any light on. My email is reagan.12@osu.edu Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 19:24:32 (EST) - oh13mac04.acs.ohio-state.edu Megan: I don't know if I can get on later, but from the prejudice point of view of a camp counsolor (who is diabetic, although the camp isn't camp just for diabetics). Camp is a great experiance for almost all kids! Camp does a world of good! :) Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 18:33:08 (EST) - ts39-13.homenet.ohio-state.edu Melissa (POM) : FORUM TONIGHT!!! 10pm EST (9pm CST, 8pm MST, 7pm PST)!!! Bring your stories about camp experiences and how your child did at camp!! See you then!! Thursday, April 03, 1997 at 18:11:29 (EST) - 207.22.198.49 |
